Badass Apache Combat Footage!

**HeavyG** · 06-02-11, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by MaFioSo

What if your an unarmed innocent bystander just driving along when you see people screaming and yelling for help and you decide to help? Do you then lose all right to bitch when you and your children are gunned down?

Agreed. The kills were simply not justified.

**Irishrice** · 06-02-11, 04:37 PM

I just feel bad for the children. I can not believe those guys took their kids in the van and tried to help the guy wounded. I have kids and maybe this is me being an asshole... but if i seen somebody shot and helicopters flying around doing the shooting all be damned if i would stop with my kids and try to help the poor bastard out... not even if it was a good friend. I would drop the kids off and then go back.

The camera men knew what they were doing when they were around enemy's of the U.S. with weapons.. They knew the spot they were in.. Its a battle field people death will occur.

**Irishrice** · 06-02-11, 04:41 PM

Being a Christian it is hard for me to justify any killing.. But at the same time God does declare that war will happen.. Anyone else have an opinion on killing with regards to their religion?

**SmokenScion** · 06-02-11, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Irishrice

Being a Christian it is hard for me to justify any killing.. But at the same time God does declare that war will happen.. Anyone else have an opinion on killing with regards to their religion?

God says a lot of things.

**MaFioSo** · 06-02-11, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Irishrice

I just feel bad for the children. I can not believe those guys took their kids in the van and tried to help the guy wounded. I have kids and maybe this is me being an asshole... but if i seen somebody shot and helicopters flying around doing the shooting all be damned if i would stop with my kids and try to help the poor bastard out... not even if it was a good friend. I would drop the kids off and then go back.

The camera men knew what they were doing when they were around enemy's of the U.S. with weapons.. They knew the spot they were in.. Its a battle field people death will occur.

From what I understand the helicopter was far away, it wasn't hovering directly over them or anything. Those helicopters have the ability to shoot from long distances. If you watch the video you will see theres a sound delay in which the shot is fired and explosion. They probably had no idea that they were being watched from above, if they did I'm sure the guy getting out of the van would have thrown his hands up in the air to try to signal the helicopter.

**ninja|oaklandr** · 06-02-11, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyG

Maybe they were armed guards protecting the reporters from insurgent attacks? Either way, the van clearly stopped to help them. That van was not a threat and that kill should not have been authorized.

My comments are about the video only.

We don't know why they stopped. We don't know what the treat was at that time. What if it was someone that was on the wanted list and his people are getting out of there before we can interrogate him.

War zones are a fucked up areas. Once we are there everyone is a threat. It doesn't take much to take down or damage a chopper. Now if the children were running around and they just started shooting that would be a different story.

**deathgodusmc** · 06-02-11, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by MaFioSo

What if your an unarmed innocent bystander just driving along when you see people screaming and yelling for help and you decide to help? Do you then lose all right to bitch when you and your children are gunned down?

What if your an insurgant on delivery duty that left your rpg and crate of ak-47's in the van while you try to reclaim other weapons and pull your buddies out so they can fight again? You cant answer the reality of the situation any more then i can and we have the luxury of time and the video. So how is the pilot and gunner suppose to know every detail?

**MaFioSo** · 06-02-11, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Irishrice

I just feel bad for the children. I can not believe those guys took their kids in the van and tried to help the guy wounded. I have kids and maybe this is me being an asshole... but if i seen somebody shot and helicopters flying around doing the shooting all be damned if i would stop with my kids and try to help the poor bastard out... not even if it was a good friend. I would drop the kids off and then go back.

Thats easier said then done, when people are bleeding out screaming and pleading with you to help because there dying. I don't think it would be that easy to just keep on driving. I have a son of my own who is 3 years old and I honestly think I would do the same thing, especially if I didn't know there was a helicopter watching over me. If someone is dying in front of you, how can you not help?

**deathgodusmc** · 06-02-11, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

God says a lot of things.

Son of bitch he hasn't said a single word to me in 39 years. Why is he talking to everyone else?

**SmokenScion** · 06-02-11, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by MaFioSo

Thats easier said then done, when people are bleeding out screaming and pleading with you to help because there dying. I don't think it would be that easy to just keep on driving. I have a son of my own who is 3 years old and I honestly think I would do the same thing, especially if I didn't know there was a helicopter watching over me. If someone is dying in front of you, how can you not help?

My fear of Zombies,