Thread: Pawlenty tax plan.

Food Stamp Fraud | Downsizing the Federal Government

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Let me know when a handful of observations counts as a statistical significance.

You haven't shown me stats that back your point of view either. I know what I've seen firsthand on a consistent basis, as do you...so if my firsthand experiences are irrelevant then I guess yours are moot as well.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

What statistical analysis does that have? A bunch of people sell food stamps, eye opening.

It doesn't but i gave him something he could read verses something everyone was just saying. I've seen the same shit over and over thousands of times so there is no doubt it does happen very frequently. However your never going to find stats for it and even if you could i would beat that they are not accurate numbers. Unless the person is completely retarded they are not going to admit to a felony for the purpose of a survey.

Originally Posted by Nuckle

I see plenty of Escalades in the projects.

and who gave them the finance to get that truck that they might not be able to afford otherwise? the system is broken.

Originally Posted by K0nTANK3Rous

What you propose is putting people on the same level of income. So that means that someone who has made a successful career/business/etc and has a higher than average income should be brought down to the level of income that people who choose or have no choice for middle class or blue collar jobs. How is that fair? Because someone is less fortunate than they are, they should have to pay them money for nothing?

No, I never proposed that. I never said anything about equal income levels. I said if you are part of the group that owns a vast majority of the well, you damn well better pay a vast majority of the taxes. That is fair. What isn't fair is making the bottom tier of wealth owners to pay far more than their share in taxes, which is what YOU are proposing with a "fair tax."

Originally Posted by K0nTANK3Rous

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I also won't sit by and have someone tell me everyone doesn't have the same opportunities. BULL SHIT! Again to reiterate Nuck, you make your own opportunity. There are plenty of jobs for people. If you drop out of school don't expect for someone to pick up your check, if you can't afford school, well, like it or not, there's the military. It gives you that opportunity, you just have to have the desire.

Lol, I wish I lived in your little fantasy land where jobs are falling out of the sky. So you think there is no such thing as unemployment and it is all a scam perpetrated by lazy people? Wow.... The reality is not everyone has the same opportunities, and you damn well know it. Not everyone had a good, structured life growing up. Not everyone went through a good school system. Not everyone can afford to go to college, and it keeps getting more expensive as the years go on. Not everyone's business ventures are successful. Not everyone can find a good job, no matter their education level. So to say everyone has the same opportunities is ridiculously ignorant of reality.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

So, in other words, you all have nothing other than anecdotal evidence. You want to convince me of something, you'll need to do better than that.

Look at the crowd you're talking to. You know you'll never see any substantial evidence to support their claims. They already think the poor have is so good and are living lives of luxury while scamming the system because they are too lazy too work. All they have is a stereotype. Does fraud exist? Absolutely, but fraud exists everywhere some thinks they can take advantage of something. A majority of people on welfare are off it within two years.

So can we all agree that this is a laughable plan that would dramatically increase our deficit and our debt?