Thread: Sex Scandal and Resignation

Originally Posted by Nuckle

...and lack of integrity, character and judgement lead to other forms of misconduct. I also said I was torn so make sure you read and digest the whole post. I really do not think he should be fired but I also think people would be idiots to reelect him.

And do not spin my words around as you always do. I did not say anything about perfect and while you spinning it that way appears to help your side of the argument it is not what I said. Learn a new tactic.

How you say? "Boom, headshot."

His integrity is the question, which speaks to his sincerity and capability as a public official. Politicians, representing the interests of a broad spectrum of people, need to be above reproach (in my opinion) - if you are going to succumb to temptation, violate your marriage vows, disrespect your wife, then lie about it and try to cover it up...you have pretty much run out of gas in the integrity and credibility tank.

Wiener is one of my favorite Democrats, he is funny, personable, passionate, etc, etc...but he APPARENTLY lacks any integrity in his personal life, which makes me (and many other Democrats, btw) question his ability to be effective in his role as a politician.

If this was purely partisan, I would take it much less seriously...but look...even his own party is bailing on him.

Democrats start bailing on Anthony Weiner - Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

8 Capitol Hill Democrats call on Weiner to resign from House - The Washington Post

Growing Number of Congressional Democrats Want Rep. Anthony Weiner to Resign - The Note

Rep. Weiner under more pressure from Dems to resign - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2010 Election - USATODAY.com

When your own party questions your integrity to this degree, it is likely time to go.

Like it or not, most of the American public (Democrat and Republican alike) expects a higher degree of decorum from our elected officials. You are free to disagree, of course.

For some reason some peope confuse Public Service and Church Service.

There is no "moral code/oath" they are held too. I don't understand why people expect Congressional/Gov't Workers to have some kind of "halo" over their head.

Hell our last President was recovering Alcholic and Drug Addict of 20+ years. No one faulted him for it.

I think people are making alot nothing into something with Anthony Weiner thing.

lying is not nothing. The current affairs bear that out. Your acceptance of lies is not declarative of the nation as a whole.

And our last president didnt lie about his struggles. America loves an underdog who overcomes "personal demons".....it liars we have little patience for.

Originally Posted by Nuckle

...and lack of integrity, character and judgement lead to other forms of misconduct. I also said I was torn so make sure you read and digest the whole post. I really do not think he should be fired but I also think people would be idiots to reelect him.

And do not spin my words around as you always do. I did not say anything about perfect and while you spinning it that way appears to help your side of the argument it is not what I said. Learn a new tactic.

Although I quoted you I was speaking in general.

They dont have to be HOLY...but another H-word...Honest.

Originally Posted by Consultant

And our last president didnt lie about his struggles. America loves an underdog who overcomes "personal demons".....it liars we have little patience for.

He lied about the drunk driving.

George W. Bush, DUI Arrest

haha, from your link:

Gore and Clinton Illegal Too

Canadian attorney Darryl Larson maintains Bush has some notable company in the "inadmissible" category, contending that Canadian law bans both President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore.

"If you admit to having smoked marijuana," Larson explains, "You have admitted to an unlawful act. That would allow reasonable grounds for our immigration officers to determine that you have broken a law that, if committed in Canada, would be subject to prosecution and therefore falls under this law. So this would apply to both Clinton and Gore."

not relevant, just funny.

I dont see anything on that page about lies, liars, or lying though. Getting arrested is a pretty public record...who did he lie to about it? (I dont know - asking)

Originally Posted by DancingCorpse

So, I am curious as to peoples opinions around here about Sex, Scandals, and Resigning.

I'm sure by now that most of you have heard that about Congressman Weiner and his inappropriate twitter activities. As far as is publicly known right now, he never came into physical contact with the women.

According to most Republicans, he should resign because it is not appropriate for a Congressman. Any campaign contributions Weiner made is tainted money, and if it is not given back to Weiner you are condoning his actions.

He didn't break laws (as of known right now). Didn't pay for sex through a prostitution service. He didn't campaign on his superior morals and sanctity of his marriage.


How many of us remember the David Vitter sex scandal?

Turned out he was on the phone records multiple times for a Prostitution Service. Shortly after this was discovered, Vitter came out and announced it and apologized.

No major players in the Republican Party (from what I can find, please if you can prove me wrong, do) called for him to resign, and actually gave him support. And no call for giving back campaign contributions to Vitter (however, I can't seem to find if anyone did or not).

He payed for sex. Broke the law. And also campaigned on the sanctity of his marriage and family values. So also a hypocrite.

How are these situations so different that Weiner is having many people demanding he resign, but Vitter doesn't need to?



What am I missing here? I feel there must SOMETHING I am missing here that makes them so much different.

Or is it really true that "It's O.K. if you are a Republican"?

Both IMO are idiots, and should hump each other