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    Trouble mounting for Obama?

    Democrats doubt Barack Obama's reelection chances - Telegraph
    Finding it hard to defend his often listless and repetitive performances, Democratic strategists and commentators are privately agreeing with Republicans and comparing Mr Obama to Jimmy Carter, another Democrat who remains the post-war benchmark for a failed president.
    Gary Pearce, a Democratic strategist in North Carolina, a swing state Mr Obama is likely to struggle to retain in 2012, said: "Democrats are worried. He looks weak, he doesn't say anything that grabs you, and people are looking for some kind of magic."
    On his nightly television show, liberal host Bill Maher dismissed Mr Obama as a Republican, and asked his panel if Mrs Clinton would have made a better president.

    "Yes," replied astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, an African American astrophysicist and broadcaster, adding that the Secretary of State would have been "a more effective negotiator in the halls of Congress".
    This part sounds so damn familiar I can't stand it.
    An article in the New York Times by Drew Westen, a professor of psychology at Emory University and a specialist in political messaging, summarised the dismay at Mr Obama's performance and was rapidly circulated online by liberals.

    "Those of us who were bewitched by his eloquence on the campaign trail chose to ignore some disquieting aspects of his biography: that he had accomplished very little before he ran for president," he wrote.
    This is the article by Mr. Westen referred to above.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/op...pagewanted=all
    The most charitable explanation is that he and his advisers have succumbed to a view of electoral success to which many Democrats succumb — that “centrist” voters like “centrist” politicians. Unfortunately, reality is more complicated. Centrist voters prefer honest politicians who help them solve their problems. A second possibility is that he is simply not up to the task by virtue of his lack of experience and a character defect that might not have been so debilitating at some other time in history. Those of us who were bewitched by his eloquence on the campaign trail chose to ignore some disquieting aspects of his biography: that he had accomplished very little before he ran for president, having never run a business or a state; that he had a singularly unremarkable career as a law professor, publishing nothing in 12 years at the University of Chicago other than an autobiography; and that, before joining the United States Senate, he had voted "present" (instead of "yea" or "nay") 130 times, sometimes dodging difficult issues.

    A somewhat less charitable explanation is that we are a nation that is being held hostage not just by an extremist Republican Party but also by a president who either does not know what he believes or is willing to take whatever position he thinks will lead to his re-election. Perhaps those of us who were so enthralled with the magnificent story he told in “Dreams From My Father” appended a chapter at the end that wasn’t there — the chapter in which he resolves his identity and comes to know who he is and what he believes in.

    Or perhaps, like so many politicians who come to Washington, he has already been consciously or unconsciously corrupted by a system that tests the souls even of people of tremendous integrity, by forcing them to dial for dollars — in the case of the modern presidency, for hundreds of millions of dollars. When he wants to be, the president is a brilliant and moving speaker, but his stories virtually always lack one element: the villain who caused the problem, who is always left out, described in impersonal terms, or described in passive voice, as if the cause of others’ misery has no agency and hence no culpability. Whether that reflects his aversion to conflict, an aversion to conflict with potential campaign donors that today cripples both parties’ ability to govern and threatens our democracy, or both, is unclear.

    A final explanation is that he ran for president on two contradictory platforms: as a reformer who would clean up the system, and as a unity candidate who would transcend the lines of red and blue. He has pursued the one with which he is most comfortable given the constraints of his character, consistently choosing the message of bipartisanship over the message of confrontation.

    The argument that he lacked experience of any tangible kind was made many times over. In many different places/forums/posts/water coolers/etc. That point was vehemently denied more often than not or dismissed as unimportant. Why did it take this long, apparently, for many otherwise very astute people to realize that blatant fact?

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    Sensationalism portrayed by ______ Media. As with "most" Politicians its what's behind the curtain that's important. I think Obama Swayed a large number of Young voters, voters who are learning the hard way to Really research their presidential candidate.
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    Still though, it could have been much worse. We could have had Palin for VP.
    enf-Jesus its been like 12 minutes and you're already worried about stats?! :-P
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    So is it possible that we will have someone from the incumbent's party challenge the active president in the next election? I could see Hillary saying, "Screw this clown."


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    She seems to have actually done a good job as Secretary of State, but I think I am still going to push for Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White View Post
    Still though, it could have been much worse. We could have had Palin for VP.
    LOL - but instead we got Biden for VP. That's not an improvement from your quip either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CivilWars View Post
    So is it possible that we will have someone from the incumbent's party challenge the active president in the next election? I could see Hillary saying, "Screw this clown."
    I am sure that there are "rumblings" internally. It would be foolish of the DNC to ignore the stark reality that is public (voter) approval or lack thereof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White View Post
    Still though, it could have been much worse. We could have had Palin for VP.
    Why? Realistically no VP has done anything truely constructive to begin with. Thats why no one ever remembers who the VP was unless there was some kind of issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathgodusmc View Post
    Why? Realistically no VP has done anything truely constructive to begin with. Thats why no one ever remembers who the VP was unless there was some kind of issue.
    The Vp is not selected for Comic relief?

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