the irony of iraq and the bible (and how the U.S. Will triumph!!)

**Liaison** · 07-02-07, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by tgross791

Originally Posted by FutureDukeSg

lol ive read this before. and also know that thats just bullshit that verse is not in the koran. if u ever have the chance look.. promise you its not there.

future, please refrain from making an anti-religuous post...if in fact it isn't in the koran, prove it, just don't say you've read it before etc.........this chain letter so to speak is for the support of our troops and also a mini history lesson, take from it what you will, but please stay on topic

[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.

No reference to an eagle anywhere that I can find in the whole book.

**tgross791** · 07-02-07, 10:20 AM

yea, i posted to future's post that the reference is incorrect......

thank you liason for posting the correct verse.........

**...bigdog...** · 07-02-07, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by GoreZiad

Jesus never existed.

Believe he's the messiah or not.....but historical records, including those of the romans, jews, and muslims, indicate he certainly did. As did Abraham.

**...bigdog...** · 07-02-07, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by GoreZiad

What else would you call Iraqis?
It's just as much offense to me, to say he existed.

Eurotrash athiest snobs........

typical.

Look gore....nobody is going "how cool, he's an athiest". If you want to say god doesn't exist, then fine. But saying something like that is rhetorical. In your mind...it's a "given" statement. Which MEANS...you only say it here to piss on people, namely the christians.

If you want to "believe" that texts in the old testament and koran, as well as those in the new testament aren't historical record....that's fine.

But....just keep in mind........that's your "belief".......and a belief that is against factual evidence to the contrary. Those cities did exist, as did the kings, the wars, the stories.....facts. Now...you can accept those facts, such as moses and abraham and jesus and david, and those people existing......and simply refuse to believe jesus was a god.....that's fair.

**tgross791** · 07-02-07, 10:33 AM

thank you bigdog........

there is a god......

i no longer have to make anymore replies...you have summed it up, thanks again bigdog for your post.

***if you care to comment any further on the religious excerpts of this post, please make a new topic and post there, this initial posting is in support of the troops, if you do not support the troops do not post***

**GoreZiad** · 07-02-07, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

Eurotrash athiest snobs........

So all Europeans are snobs?

Look, it's okay to have a belief. It helps the human understanding things, doing things.

But don't fucking try to tell me that "god" or "jesus" created all this. All the suffering, all the pain, all the wars. Everything.

No way. We are all humans, European or American. Middle eastern, Asian or whatever! We all have our beliefs, and that is okay.

Because I don't believe in god, I'm not a bad person, or a "European snob".
I could tell you a few facts about the American people, but I don't. I respect you all. I'm not an Atheist or whatever, I have no religion. Still, I have an opinion.

Eveyone has the right to have an opinion.

**GoreZiad** · 07-02-07, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by tgross791

there is a god......

Yes, licking pops, there is a god. But it's up to every single person to decide who it is, or what it is.

And I have my thoughts, you have yours. Don't think you're smarter than everyone else.

Thanks guys, this ruined my day.

Later.

"Good to hear it ruined your day" You're welcome"

You don't have to say that now.

**sacredsarcasm** · 07-02-07, 10:45 AM

t you opened this can of worms buddy. religion, abortion, death penalty... dont bring it up if you are easily offended. if you are a Christian etc, arent you supposed to be open minded to others so you can bring them to your line of thinking. as opposed to being confrontory and confirming what they believe about your religion already.