DFW 2142 Players - Off the Server 'Happy Hour' Inquiry

**Salesman** · 05-10-09, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by l2icky615

If you know you're landing right on them and it's not registering, that's probably just an issue with latency on the server. The hit box on survivors for the Hunter's pounce is already quite large if you ask me. Assuming everyone has decent ping, you'll still register a high pounce if you land in front of them and kiss their feet.

Yeah it is mostly just lag, but that is my point. If it had a bigger splash range it would compensate a little bit. I feel like Michael J Fox trying to do brain surgery..

**flukeman** · 05-10-09, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by roguespook

where do people keep getting pounce kills....I said a maximum pounce should be an incap not a kill...

got a pounce kill on DA1, when the survivors were walking across the first plank, bill was walking right along the edge so i pounced him side-on from atop the roof with the water tower and took him down into the alley, insta-kill.

**roguespook** · 05-11-09, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by l2icky615

So are you insinuating that an instant incap pounce is not overpowered or something? There are servers that allow you to pounce for over 25, but most of them cap it somewhere around 33-40 because anything over that is just downright ridiculous considering a high pounce is not hard at all.

Edit: And by the way, you DID say it should kill, or you implied it at least. Reread one of my posts on page one.

I disagree, It wouldnt be over powered and maybe its just that much easier to get high pounces on the PC, Ive never seen a pounce for more then 25HPs, major pounces arent as easy or common when Im playing. This goes for my team and the other team. The high pounce areas arent around every corner either.

And by implying it, I was being sarcastic.

**roguespook** · 05-11-09, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by flukeman

got a pounce kill on DA1, when the survivors were walking across the first plank, bill was walking right along the edge so i pounced him side-on from atop the roof with the water tower and took him down into the alley, insta-kill.

I got something similar to that on NM1, Guy was jumping near the edge of the roof and I pounced him from the side and took him all the way off the roof.

**I Redemptionx I** · 05-11-09, 05:48 PM

High pounces are common, at least with a decent enough team. Maybe not in most pubs, but any competent team will try to high pounce you on a regular basis.

**l2icky615** · 05-11-09, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by roguespook

I disagree, It wouldnt be over powered and maybe its just that much easier to get high pounces on the PC, Ive never seen a pounce for more then 25HPs, major pounces arent as easy or common when Im playing. This goes for my team and the other team. The high pounce areas arent around every corner either.

And by implying it, I was being sarcastic.

Do you play with retards or something? I can see how high pouncing in certain areas (25s that require horizontal jumping or hopping off several walls) may not be as easy on 360 compared to PC, but there are possible high pounces EVERYWHERE unless you're indoors. Many of said pounces are just straight jumps, so landing it is just as easy on 360 as it is PC. As for the 25+ pounce thing, of course you haven't seen it, it's a mod on some PC servers.

Honestly, I can't see what's going through your mind that leads you to believe instant incaps by high pounces would not be ridiculously imbalanced.

**roguespook** · 05-12-09, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by l2icky615

Do you play with retards or something? I can see how high pouncing in certain areas (25s that require horizontal jumping or hopping off several walls) may not be as easy on 360 compared to PC, but there are possible high pounces EVERYWHERE unless you're indoors. Many of said pounces are just straight jumps, so landing it is just as easy on 360 as it is PC. As for the 25+ pounce thing, of course you haven't seen it, it's a mod on some PC servers.

Honestly, I can't see what's going through your mind that leads you to believe instant incaps by high pounces would not be ridiculously imbalanced.

Easy to explain, MOVE if you hear a hunter, seems to work out well for me. And if they anticipate where your running too and nail your ass then they deserve the incap.

**I Redemptionx I** · 05-12-09, 06:03 PM

What you don't seem to realize is that 25's are already SO easy and common. You'd be getting incap'ed every other second, which would be redicoulously overpowered.

If he jumps from two roof tops away, you wouldn't hear him. The Average pubber sucks already enough as it is, this wouldn't add to any sort of game balance. Maybe raising the pounce cap to 30-40, max. But even that is a LOT of damage.

**KEM_Num_nums** · 05-12-09, 06:34 PM

The thing is this:

Smokers are not meant to do a lot of damage. Smokers are meant to snag the morons who either go to far ahead of their team or get stuck behind. You snag them and that's it. In the amount of time it takes for the team to get to them, if you have a particularly good snag spot, you've perhaps incaped them and maybe even done a decent amount of damage, but that's not your concern as the smoker, that's the hunter's deal. The smoker is somewhat like a pawn in a game of chess. You aren't meant to do much, but sometimes what you can manage to do is excellent and can change the course of the match.

**l2icky615** · 05-12-09, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by roguespook

Easy to explain, MOVE if you hear a hunter, seems to work out well for me. And if they anticipate where your running too and nail your ass then they deserve the incap.

Wow, just wow. You think anticipating where the survivors are going is hard? I can see how it's slightly more difficult in an open area, but it's not hard at all to do if you have decent map knowledge. As for moving when you hear a Hunter, that works for you because you're playing with morons who use common spots that everyone is going to watch. I don't know about you, but after leaving the safe room in DA2, I can't hear a pounce coming all the way from the dumpster near the crane.

Edit: Just found this thread when browsing the rest of the forums.
http://www.left4deadforums.com/19674...tml#post314888

The majority of pounces shown here are standard high pounces from a competent player on PC. You're saying every one of these should be an instant incap? You're saying that you're gonna hear that Hunter coming every time?