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Thread: National ID cards
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04-25-08, 02:17 AM #52
Re: National ID cards
Well, I was going to say that a national ID card that was optional would be ok with me, but that kind of negates the goal of using them for anti-terrorism. There are other uses for it though, some of which I am not opposed to. I don't think anything like this should be mandatory.
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04-25-08, 08:37 AM #54
Re: National ID cards
I believe the scenario that turns us into big brother/brave new world has already happened and continues to happen, and evolve behind the scenes, but I don't see the end, in my head, I don't know that things will swing all the way (even long term) to Orwell or Huxley.
The RFID is probably unavoidable, and can be argued it's just an extension of your current drivers license or credit card as others have done in this thread, in it's self it's revolutionary as it makes information gathering so much easier - as the the telephone did.....as the internet does, as magnetic strips and GPS do.
My dream for the future is that consumer/citizens are given the authority, power and control over their personal information. Meaning the way the credit score system, medical records etc... are handled as respects privacy and personal control - are revamped.
Power must be returned to us to control our private information, we have to fight to empower our selves to have control over our identities just as we would have fought to have control over our 100 acres assigned to us in Oklahoma 150 years ago.
Do we have an absolute right to privacy?
Do we have the ability to control and keep private (including from the government) our personal information, travel habits, purchasing trends, medical records, GENOME?
Are we the "be all end all" when it comes to our privacy and records.
If we answer yes to that, the RFID and the things that follow it that will be even more innovative will be on the right path to expansion of society + human kind vs. control of society + human kind.
To me, it's not the RFID chip that's at ALL an issue...it's how hard we fight to control the potential impact to our privacy that the RFID and the sure to come expansions of this type of technology provide...
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05-02-08, 01:49 PM #56
Re: National ID cards
Originally Posted by marmaduke1971
As far as I understand the RFID law, it has no check or balances, or worse yet, no limitations on what types of infomration can be tied to the ID. Was that by accident? I don't think so. There are some pretty bright Yale and Harvard boys that write and/or review that shit. They don't miss anything. If a newb lawyer like me on TTP can figure out the loopholes then you can bet that they are there on purpose.
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05-02-08, 02:51 PM #57Re: National ID cards
Originally Posted by nsRaven
If you ever receive a receipt where your entire credit card number is on it, that store/company is in violation of the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS) and subject to rather significant fines. A bigger risk is them swiping your card through a card reader of their own and gathering the data contained on that stripe. They can then sell this data and a new physical card can be created for use/abuse by whomever it is sold to.
There's fairly well documented information out there about the 'security' or lack thereof of the RFID being used in passports. You can buy an RFID Experimentation kit from thinkgeek.com and with information gathered on the internet are able to read the data contained within the passport RFID chip. Now there is an interesting way to get the old style non-RFID chip passports issued to you. Go to a third-world country and lose your passport. You then just need to go to the Embassy/Counsulate for that country and they'll issue the old style passports. The problem is they haven't gotten the new RFID capable equipment to the smaller nations of the world. I'm sure that loophole will be gone soon enough.
The credit cards that your banks and financial institutions are issuing with RFID chips in them are subject to the same problem. They can be read by a device about the size of a lunch box from a range of 20-50 feet. A criminal wanting to steal your credit card info would need to setup shop near any of the point of sale terminals in a store with his little device and your data is as good as gone. You can request a card from MOST banks and financial institutions that does not have RFID chips in them. I've done this with a couple of my accounts.
My wife and I are going on a cruise... we need passports in order to board the ship. Rather than disable the RFID chip (and invalidate the passport) we opted to get an RFID blocking wallet to store our passports in.
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