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dont have 9 kids like my parents, its no fun

but congrats :P

im against polygamy hellfire :P jus keeeding

since we are on the subject...

plase see: http://www.manbabies.com

p.s. be sure click the "Popular" link up top when you get to the site. and prepare to laugh.













































this ones my fav

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Originally Posted by Syrringe

im against polygamy hellfire :P

fuck you lol @ manbabies

Cereal at a month Holy crap, ignore that, unless you want to increase the chance of a colicky, crying infant now and an obese kid later. Stuffing your mini-me with partially-digestable empty carbs to fill him up is the worst thing you can do.

The *best* thing you can do nutritionally for baby is the food that is specially designed for baby. It adjusts as baby gets older to keep giving baby what it needs. All kinds of goodness nothing else can match, and this wonder food is free!

Do your research, and support your wife nursing. There is a group called "La Leche League" that is fantastic for all kinds of nursing info and lots of other great info that actually has the research behind it, rather than the BS commercial main-stream stuff. It's an international group, so the odds are good wherever you are, they aren't far away.

And my wife is very active in the group, so feel free to PM me if you or your S.O. want more info.

The other things I'll suggest as worthy of consideration may not work for everyone, but have worked well for us:

1) If you can afford to do so, have a primary caregiver at home at least half-time for the first few years (at least)

2) Cloth diaper. Save good $$, especially if you have more than one eventually, much better for the environment (if you care about such things. I was willng to try it once I saw how easy it is these days, and the $$ saved.) Also, breast-milk poops are much cleaner than formula poops, so it's not as bad as you first think it will be.

3) Co-sleep. It makes nursing much easier when Mom can just roll over and toss a boob in the kid's mouth. You will not roll over and crush your baby unless you are a moron- By "moron" I mean getting hammered/stoned/wasted and passing out in bed with your child- Those activities *have* been shown to pose increased risk to your infant because the parent is not responsive. Just going to sleep and letting your child cuddle up next to your wife actually shows a significantly reduced risk of SIDS because (in addition to having a responsive person right there) parents' and baby's bodies and systems do an amazing job of regulating and monitoring each other.

4) And here's the strangest sounding one. I swear, I thought my wife was nutters when she started talking about it, and I wasn't optimistic, but it's been fantastic- Look into "Elimination communication" and "Infant potty training." It basically just involves paying enough attention to your child's cue's that you know when to put them on a little plastic potty (get a "baby bjorn" from Babies R Us, even) and let them do their thing.

By the time our first son was a year old, we were catching >90% of poops, and maybe 75% pees. By 2, he was fully potty-trained, except for the *occasional* pee accident. By 2.5 he would just get up and take himself to the potty except for needing a wipe when he's done. It's so flipping awesome, I don't know why everyone doesn't do it. Sure, it's a little more work to pay attention to your kid, but isn't that the "good" kind of work? Beats the hell out of poopy diapers any day of the week!

dont worry scrum..i can pick apart the good advice from the bad.

Wow. What's your malfunction, dude? You hear an opinion different from your own, and your best response is to become abusive and denigrate my opinion? And calling a women's support group a "cult?"

Oh, but you must be right, because *wikipedia* says so? What a joke you are. How about you come back to me when you have done real research of what is in peer reviewed journals, you sanctimonious rectum. And a quote from AAP, whose statement in regard to co-sleeping was not based on any study, but happened to be someone's opinion? (AAP being the standard-bearer of conventional American medical pediatrics.)

Oh, but the American conventional wisdom must be right, since we are the best country in the free world? The problem is, if you have been raised in the U.S., what is "natural" to you is probably not the best thing for Mom or baby. That's why making an effort to *learn* has value relative to just muddling through on hunches and mis-information.

Ohh- Bold statement? Hmmm, let's look up the statistics for infant mortality in the U.S. (I'll save you the trouble- We're at the *bottom* of the industrialized world for infant outcomes even though we are at the top of the heap for dollars spent on health care per capita.) When you include the unindustrialized western world, we leap to second from the bottom, surpassing Latvia- Dare to dream, my friends.

And your "toss the kid in a crib and let them cry it out" philosophy? By your own admission it is not for the good of baby you do that, but because you don't want to be bothered. So, your basic parenting philosophy is rooted in laziness and selfishness, but somehow *I* am the one dishing out bad advice because I don't agree with you?

CIO - Australian Association of Infant Mental Health: "Controlled crying is not consistent with what infants need for their optimal emotional and psychological health, and may have unintended negative consequences" Controlled Crying, AAIMHI Position Paper November 2002.

"...Deleterious to the infant, with increased physiological effort, increased heart and lung activity, and increased energy loss."

You have obviously already made up your tiny little mind, but you did ask for some peer reviewed data on co-sleeping, so:

"Co-sleeping: Infants sleeping alone in a room by themselves are at least twice as likely to die from SIDS than are infants sleeping in the company (same room) as a committed adult caregiver" - Lancet, 2008

"Co-sleepers (children) were most independent with peers and in self care skills" - Infant and Child Development 2007

Oh, and on cereal at a month? Even your own AAP now advises 6 months of exclusive breastfeeding followed by slow introduction of solids. And yes, increased incidence of obesity and type 2 diabetes were cited in their own research. Of course the WHO puts it at a year, but why quibble.

Meh. I've spent enough time on this already. The facts are out there, do with it what you will. Will the conventional approach kill your kid? Of course not. (Well, not unless your kid is one of the unlucky ones.) Lots of kids grow up fine with all kinds of worse issues growing up than whether they were held, nursed, and so forth. But look at how many people have crappy relationships with their kids, and the broad sweep of societal deterioration and anti-social behaviors. Is there a relationship between that deterioration in inter-societal bonds and the deterioration in familial bonds? Maybe its coincidental. Maybe it isn't. Either way, I'm loving raising my boys, and I recommend the choices that we've made to anyone who is willing to put the effort into doing the research, and is strong enough to think for themselves.