Iran: How much longer do we have to put up with them?

**Red_Lizard2** · 07-10-08, 01:03 AM

read enough about WWII dex? we didn't get in til we were attacked by the Japanese

**asianator365** · 07-10-08, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

hmm you also should have realized that the 4 attackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia, and had been trained there.

Due to your first line of idiocy, I will address only that, and not the rest. It simply isn't worth my time, because this thread is about Iran, not Iraq and not your ramblings. Fifteen, not four of the attackers were from Saudi Arabia. That right there proves that you don't have a clue as to your facts. But I'm going to look past that and address the broader issue. We are fighting a war without borders, without an enemy with a uniform. We are fighting an entire group of people that is spread across the entire world. The people we are fighting are known by many names: holy warriors, martyrs, jihadis, allah's servants...but ultimately they are all terrorists. They may speak Arabic, Chinese, German, or English. They are united not by their country of origin but by their faith and their hatred of the West. They will fight until the death, gladly sacrificing their lives for the cause. And that cause is the killing of every single person on this earth who does not support their radical beliefs. Get used to it. Because this problem will not go away any time soon. It has been going since 930 A.D. and it isn't going to end until the end of humanity on Earth.

**asianator365** · 07-10-08, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

read enough about WWII dex? we didn't get in til we were attacked by the Japanese

Which brings up your earlier comment that going to war over people getting killed was "fucking retarded"....

**Red_Lizard2** · 07-10-08, 01:06 AM

which bring to point my follow-up that what i was saying was over a country killing its own people. and omg sorry i didn't have the right number OMG!!! its so impossible to make an honest mistake

. Going on since 903 A.D. eh? and how many times since then have they attacked us again? besides why should we be fighting a war over there if we know they can attack us here, why not work on defending our country, instead of sticking our noses where it doesn't belong?

**Gumby** · 07-10-08, 02:44 AM

Red_Lizard,
You would rather fight them on US soil than on theirs?
I don't know about you, but I would much rather be on the offensive than the defensive.

**CivilWars** · 07-10-08, 02:47 AM

I don't know why politicians don't realize that milk, cookies, and choruses of Kum Ba Yah is always the answer. All these people need is a little love.

**dex71** · 07-10-08, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

read enough about WWII dex? we didn't get in til we were attacked by the Japanese

We didn't get into the war on terror until we were attacked.Several times.You are bitching about us attacking Iraq because they weren't responsible for 9/11,yet you have nothing to say about us attacking Germany?What did they have to do with Pearl Harbor?

**dex71** · 07-10-08, 09:43 AM

And yes,I read a lot about WW2...a lot.I have a family member who was permanantly injured in the fight for Iwo Jima.I read books and watch documenteries on WW2 all the time.We can learn a ton from the mistakes of the past.If we would have gotten into the war in Europe about 3-4 years earlier,it wouldn't have been nearly as costly.We learned that problems in other countrys can and will eventually spill onto our soil.If we don't learn the lessons from history,we are destined to repeat them.

**Benandorf** · 07-10-08, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

yes because how he ran his country makes such a difference as if we should attack. Yes he killed people, but you know what? going to war over that is fucking retarded, not that you'd understand cuz you've been fed and dish out the same neo-con bullshit over and over.

That, right there, shows that you have no actual understanding of their situation. We didn't start the war because of the situation over there, but that's why we're still there.

These people lived in utter fear for their lives all the time. It was rule by warlords and tyrants. Thousands, millions even, of them were rounded up and killed. Basically, it was a smaller version of the holocaust. I'm very much opposed to being the police of the world, but these people needed help, and once we got there, we realized that. Was it right for us to stay and try to help? Maybe, maybe not. But if we weren't going to, no one else would, and you can't truthfully say you support leaving fellow human beings to be slaughtered and oppressed to the extent of being rationally fearful of even going outside.

Also, Saddam was a threat to us, so there's that too.

**asianator365** · 07-10-08, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Benandorf

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

yes because how he ran his country makes such a difference as if we should attack. Yes he killed people, but you know what? going to war over that is fucking retarded, not that you'd understand cuz you've been fed and dish out the same neo-con bullshit over and over.

That, right there, shows that you have no actual understanding of their situation. We didn't start the war because of the situation over there, but that's why we're still there.

These people lived in utter fear for their lives all the time. It was rule by warlords and tyrants. Thousands, millions even, of them were rounded up and killed. Basically, it was a smaller version of the holocaust. I'm very much opposed to being the police of the world, but these people needed help, and once we got there, we realized that. Was it right for us to stay and try to help? Maybe, maybe not. But if we weren't going to, no one else would, and you can't truthfully say you support leaving fellow human beings to be slaughtered and oppressed to the extent of being rationally fearful of even going outside.

Also, Saddam was a threat to us, so there's that too.

Thankyou Benandorf, maybe he will understand you this time...