America is NOT a democracy

**CivilWars** · 07-10-08, 05:31 PM

**tyrannicalt-bagger** · 07-10-08, 05:59 PM

Is that the best you can do? Put downs and conspiracy accusations? More Americans die from occupational hazards than terrorist attacks, that was the point. The following is a list of yearly statistics from "Dirty Truths" by Michael Parenti - "5,000,000 workers are injured on the job, 150,000 of whom suffer permanent work-related disabilities, including maiming, paralysis, impaired vision, damaged hearing, and sterility. 100,000 become seriously ill from work-related diseases, including black lung, brown lung, cancer, and tuberculosis. 14,000 are killed on the job. 100,000 die prematurely from work-related diseases." I am sure that a lot of this could be avoided with better regulation, but that costs money and takes away from profits. Here is another quote to illustrate how violence to the environment can lead to American deaths "60,000 are killed by toxic environmental pollutants or contaminants in food, water, or air."

**Pineapple!** · 07-10-08, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by asianator365

Originally Posted by tyrannicalt-bagger

"Drug-related deaths? How is that caused by the government?"

Because the United States imports the drugs. The War on Drugs is a joke. Back when the Iran-Contra scandal was going on, there was a 3rd secret. When the planes that brought the Contras arms (illegaly) returned to the US, guess what came with them? Cocaine and other illegal drugs. Here is a book "Powderburns: Cocaine, Contras, and the Drug War" written by Celerino Castillo III. He was a DEA agent who saw the whole thing go down for years, wrote many reports, but eventually quit his job after realizing that the Reagan Administration wouldn't allow this secret to be reveiled. Hey guess what most people are in jail for? DRUGS!

Ahh, and I'm sure the government imbedded tracking chips in Beanie Babies and cameras in Furbies, too.

Asian, if you haven't heard about or understand the Iran-Contra affair....you should.

**CivilWars** · 07-10-08, 06:07 PM

I by no means think America is perfect, and do not think that those who disagree don't have the right to speak out. However, for those of you that preach about how Fed up America is why are you still here? If it is better in (insert country of choice here) then why do you choose to live in America?

I am sure some of you will say I can't afford to get there To which I say plane tickets are fairly cheap. Others will say I can get their, but can't afford to liver there. If it is so great would that not include the economy, so should it not support you once you arrive?

For all of the flaws and warts our political system has, and I agree it has them on every side not just the reds or the blues, how many other countries can you name that have been under the same political system for the last 230+ years. They are few and far between. Why is that? Maybe the founders got some things half right.

**MotoZ** · 07-10-08, 06:12 PM

Good words, Civil.

**asianator365** · 07-10-08, 06:26 PM

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**asianator365** · 07-10-08, 06:29 PM

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**Toker** · 07-10-08, 06:32 PM

God bless America. A country where you can profit off of pure Anti-Americanism.

**Blah64** · 07-10-08, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by tyrannicalt-bagger

Is that the best you can do? Put downs and conspiracy accusations? More Americans die from occupational hazards than terrorist attacks, that was the point. The following is a list of yearly statistics from "Dirty Truths" by Michael Parenti - "5,000,000 workers are injured on the job, 150,000 of whom suffer permanent work-related disabilities, including maiming, paralysis, impaired vision, damaged hearing, and sterility. 100,000 become seriously ill from work-related diseases, including black lung, brown lung, cancer, and tuberculosis. 14,000 are killed on the job. 100,000 die prematurely from work-related diseases." I am sure that a lot of this could be avoided with better regulation, but that costs money and takes away from profits. Here is another quote to illustrate how violence to the environment can lead to American deaths "60,000 are killed by toxic environmental pollutants or contaminants in food, water, or air."

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YAY! Let's just blame the government for things and not try to do something about it ourselves. I don't like developers making bad games, so this is the governments fault. They should regulate the quality of our games. I shouldn't have to not buy it to teach them a lesson, the government should take care of it for me.

**CivilWars** · 07-10-08, 06:44 PM

They weren't the only ones I was speaking to. To go into a discussion thinking you are 100% correct, and any opinion that opposes yours is 100% incorrect is naive to say the least.