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10-12-08, 01:11 PM #51
Re: Obama quotes
We've had riots as well. Bad ones. As in France, our riots were based on race differences. How are riots related to the question of socialist aspects of U.S. government?
A common argument against socialist policies is that the people that receive benefits will get lazy. Granted that happens to some extent, but if that was all there is the matter it would beg a question: Why are the people that receive the benefits causing the riots?
Common thinking would have us believe that they are happily milking the system. Nothing to be angry about from their end, right? Or could there be something deeper going on in their souls? How would you feel if I called you a dumbass TTP admin while I donated some money to TTP? Would you be happy? Grateful? Or would you long for something else? If so, then what? How could you get what you want? How could you change my behaviour?
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10-12-08, 02:24 PM #52
Re: Obama quotes
Apologies...
I left off my 4th point...which speaks to the consequences of not answering the Liberal as so prescribed:
4) Not doing so will only result in yet another argument about things you don't believe in.
A cognitive mobius loop, if you will. Having just completed my 47th lap around the sun one thing is glaringly obvious. Relatively speaking, I don't have that many laps left. With time being short, and already knowing what I believe why is it in my best interest to have endless discussions with people who don't seem to be able to pick a philosophical foxhole and defend it? This, obviously, is a rhetorical question...I already have the answer.
I endeavor to be precise with my language. If you'll notice I didn't mention anything about being Republican or Democrat. Just Conservative, which is a philosophy...not a party. But since you brought it up, perhaps if the Conservatives within the Democratic Party had picked a foxhole they wouldn't have been overrun by the Socialist and Marxist sympathizing Left. But, that's their problem and I don't care to solve it.
My statement was actually more of a question, To Wit: If there are other Conservatives within the TTP community who find themselves similarly situated maybe we could/should have our own foxhole within the forums. If not, that's okay...
But out of courtesy I'll answer your question gentle Mr. Soy: Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying...less talk, more action. Ultimately it's how the important things have always gotten done.
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10-12-08, 02:30 PM #53
Re: Obama quotes
Originally Posted by Potemkine
Germany hasn't had riots since the student uprisings of 1968.
France had some rioting a few years ago but was confined to a small majority of immigrants who were opposed to some changes in the labor law. They failed.
Either way this has nothing to do with whether socialism works or not.
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10-12-08, 02:37 PM #54
Re: Obama quotes
Originally Posted by SonicDogfart
Or is there possibly another plan for action? One that requires something a little more moderate. Something that has a little conservatism in it and a little socialism? I don't know where you're getting your info, DogFart, but I haven't heard any Democrats pushing for Communism or pure socialism. If so send me a link to their writings and I promise to read it.
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10-12-08, 02:41 PM #55
Re: Obama quotes
Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005
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10-12-08, 04:14 PM #56
Re: Obama quotes
Originally Posted by ebaconjr
That has to do with reparations dating back to the second world war. It's not a policy in which Germany is looking for cheap labor. As far as Germans being unhappy, all things being equal they are quite happy with their system in comparison to the U.S. I know because I live in Europe and spent 12 years in Germany. Life here for the average person is better than the U.S.
Since the EU opened it's borders to labor migration there has been alot of tension against Polish workers who will work for a third of what Germans will. This is due mainly to the fact that in the construction industry it is relatively easy to get away with unannounced labor (no taxes paid).
Europeans are not enamored of the U.S. lifestyle. They see the extreme poverty and extreme wealth. Most Europeans find our lifestyle and our endless pursuit of money quite perverse.
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