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    We've had riots as well. Bad ones. As in France, our riots were based on race differences. How are riots related to the question of socialist aspects of U.S. government?

    A common argument against socialist policies is that the people that receive benefits will get lazy. Granted that happens to some extent, but if that was all there is the matter it would beg a question: Why are the people that receive the benefits causing the riots?

    Common thinking would have us believe that they are happily milking the system. Nothing to be angry about from their end, right? Or could there be something deeper going on in their souls? How would you feel if I called you a dumbass TTP admin while I donated some money to TTP? Would you be happy? Grateful? Or would you long for something else? If so, then what? How could you get what you want? How could you change my behaviour?

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    Apologies...

    I left off my 4th point...which speaks to the consequences of not answering the Liberal as so prescribed:

    4) Not doing so will only result in yet another argument about things you don't believe in.

    A cognitive mobius loop, if you will. Having just completed my 47th lap around the sun one thing is glaringly obvious. Relatively speaking, I don't have that many laps left. With time being short, and already knowing what I believe why is it in my best interest to have endless discussions with people who don't seem to be able to pick a philosophical foxhole and defend it? This, obviously, is a rhetorical question...I already have the answer.

    I endeavor to be precise with my language. If you'll notice I didn't mention anything about being Republican or Democrat. Just Conservative, which is a philosophy...not a party. But since you brought it up, perhaps if the Conservatives within the Democratic Party had picked a foxhole they wouldn't have been overrun by the Socialist and Marxist sympathizing Left. But, that's their problem and I don't care to solve it.

    My statement was actually more of a question, To Wit: If there are other Conservatives within the TTP community who find themselves similarly situated maybe we could/should have our own foxhole within the forums. If not, that's okay...

    But out of courtesy I'll answer your question gentle Mr. Soy: Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying...less talk, more action. Ultimately it's how the important things have always gotten done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potemkine
    France and Germany I believe are much closer to socialism than we are. If you want evidence of their failure or success you just need to look at the recent history. How many riots has France had in the past 50 years or so?
    Know what you're talking about first.

    Germany hasn't had riots since the student uprisings of 1968.

    France had some rioting a few years ago but was confined to a small majority of immigrants who were opposed to some changes in the labor law. They failed.

    Either way this has nothing to do with whether socialism works or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicDogfart
    precisely what I'm saying...less talk, more action. Ultimately it's how the important things have always gotten done.
    Agreed. So what's the conservative plan for action? Every man for himself? Survival of the fittest? If so, then the fittest what? Person? Race? Class? Nation? Animal? Once the fittest has survived, what does the fittest do then? Masturbate to his stockpiles of dead?

    Or is there possibly another plan for action? One that requires something a little more moderate. Something that has a little conservatism in it and a little socialism? I don't know where you're getting your info, DogFart, but I haven't heard any Democrats pushing for Communism or pure socialism. If so send me a link to their writings and I promise to read it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005
    Germany hasn't had riots since the student uprisings of 1968.
    Germans are however frustrated even now with the extent of their socialism. My understanding is that they are allowing Russians in that can show German heritage. That policy has a good number of Germans pissed off right now and while they may not be rioting, they are not happy about it either. Those Russians aren't being met with a Guten Morgen on their way to get a morning broetchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebaconjr
    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005
    Germany hasn't had riots since the student uprisings of 1968.
    Germans are however frustrated even now with the extent of their socialism. My understanding is that they are allowing Russians in that can show German heritage. That policy has a good number of Germans pissed off right now and while they may not be rioting, they are not happy about it either. Those Russians aren't being met with a Guten Morgen on their way to get a morning broetchen.


    That has to do with reparations dating back to the second world war. It's not a policy in which Germany is looking for cheap labor. As far as Germans being unhappy, all things being equal they are quite happy with their system in comparison to the U.S. I know because I live in Europe and spent 12 years in Germany. Life here for the average person is better than the U.S.

    Since the EU opened it's borders to labor migration there has been alot of tension against Polish workers who will work for a third of what Germans will. This is due mainly to the fact that in the construction industry it is relatively easy to get away with unannounced labor (no taxes paid).

    Europeans are not enamored of the U.S. lifestyle. They see the extreme poverty and extreme wealth. Most Europeans find our lifestyle and our endless pursuit of money quite perverse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005
    That has to do with reparations dating back to the second world war.
    ah-hah. I didn't know the history. Thanks for clarifying.

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    I hope commander is man enough to come in and right this wrong. Integrity is earned this way bro.
    Awwwww,,,,, I see we have some Obama lovers here that only want to read and respond on only a couple of quotes that they want to rebuff. I guess all the other quotes are just to be over looked and yes they are in his book.

    Btw, about his American flag pin that he doesn't want to wear.... Those are his words quoted, whether you wish to believe it or not. Just because www.snopes.com didn't verify it, doesn't mean they are the only ones that hear every world of what he says.

    There is always someone listening and someone watching.

    As far as saluting, Military salute and American citizens put their hand over their heart for the respect and love of our country, that I am proud to be a citizen of and always have been, through the easy and the tough times, I stand by my country.

    You might not agree with every quote, but no one surely denied them all, just overlooked them, just like the main stream media, which is mostly made up of democrats or liberals.

    My opinion on Barrack Obama is that he is all for RAISING TAXES, not for fighting terrorism, doesn't condone it and wants a socialist society.....

    He is also all for Late term abortions, even when the baby is born alive and he is the only one that stood on the senate floor and argued for it.

    I go by his past actions and track record.
    Amen, I don't trust Obama one bit.

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    The only thing more saddening than the misinformed thinking themselves not only right, but righteous, is those same people spreading their misinformation to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicDogfart
    But out of courtesy I'll answer your question gentle Mr. Soy: Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying...less talk, more action. Ultimately it's how the important things have always gotten done.
    Tom DeLay did a bang-up job while applying this strategem. Does anyone here, honestly miss "the Hammer"?

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