True or False....Global Warming

**roadhog0** · 12-13-09, 02:41 PM

It was about 10 degrees at night outside of Seattle this last week... Typically its about 40, Makes me wonder.

**deathgodusmc** · 12-13-09, 02:44 PM

I blame a hotter sun and magnetic shift for the bulk of it then i can i can take the hit on man kind for the rest.

**Potemkine** · 12-13-09, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by roadhog0

It was about 10 degrees at night outside of Seattle this last week... Typically its about 40, Makes me wonder.

*facepalm*

You need 30 YEARS worth of data, preferably more to dictate climactic trends.

**Potemkine** · 12-13-09, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I blame a hotter sun and magnetic shift for the bulk of it then i can i can take the hit on man kind for the rest.

Now that would be perfectly reasonable position to take. One small problem though, our sun has had pretty much no change in solar output in the past couple hundred years, except for the odd solar flare or 11 year cycle.

Originally Posted by THATriggerHappy

i could not read this entire thread so excuse me if this has already been stated. And i know i do not know my source but i know it is out there because i have read it. Explain to me how the moon has heated and cooled at the same rate as earth and still there are claims of global warming?

Interesting, except for the fact that the moon has little to no atmosphere, therefore, no temperature like Earth has. Its temperature is essentially equal to that of the surrounding area in space.

**deathgodusmc** · 12-13-09, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Potemkine

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I blame a hotter sun and magnetic shift for the bulk of it then i can i can take the hit on man kind for the rest.

Now that would be perfectly reasonable position to take. One small problem though, our sun has had pretty much no change in solar output in the past couple hundred years, except for the odd solar flare or 11 year cycle.

Originally Posted by THATriggerHappy

i could not read this entire thread so excuse me if this has already been stated. And i know i do not know my source but i know it is out there because i have read it. Explain to me how the moon has heated and cooled at the same rate as earth and still there are claims of global warming?

Interesting, except for the fact that the moon has little to no atmosphere, therefore, no temperature like Earth has. Its temperature is essentially equal to that of the surrounding area in space.

From what i've been reading it has increased output every 10 years by .1% And our polar shift has increased speed from 10 kms every couple years to 40 kms.

**Potemkine** · 12-13-09, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by Potemkine

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I blame a hotter sun and magnetic shift for the bulk of it then i can i can take the hit on man kind for the rest.

Now that would be perfectly reasonable position to take. One small problem though, our sun has had pretty much no change in solar output in the past couple hundred years, except for the odd solar flare or 11 year cycle.

Originally Posted by THATriggerHappy

i could not read this entire thread so excuse me if this has already been stated. And i know i do not know my source but i know it is out there because i have read it. Explain to me how the moon has heated and cooled at the same rate as earth and still there are claims of global warming?

Interesting, except for the fact that the moon has little to no atmosphere, therefore, no temperature like Earth has. Its temperature is essentially equal to that of the surrounding area in space.

From what i've been reading it has increased output every 10 years by .1% And our polar shift has increased speed from 10 kms every couple years to 40 kms.

Interesting....source? Little busy at the moment.

**deathgodusmc** · 12-13-09, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Potemkine

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by Potemkine

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I blame a hotter sun and magnetic shift for the bulk of it then i can i can take the hit on man kind for the rest.

Now that would be perfectly reasonable position to take. One small problem though, our sun has had pretty much no change in solar output in the past couple hundred years, except for the odd solar flare or 11 year cycle.

Originally Posted by THATriggerHappy

i could not read this entire thread so excuse me if this has already been stated. And i know i do not know my source but i know it is out there because i have read it. Explain to me how the moon has heated and cooled at the same rate as earth and still there are claims of global warming?

Interesting, except for the fact that the moon has little to no atmosphere, therefore, no temperature like Earth has. Its temperature is essentially equal to that of the surrounding area in space.

From what i've been reading it has increased output every 10 years by .1% And our polar shift has increased speed from 10 kms every couple years to 40 kms.

Interesting....source? Little busy at the moment.

Give me a minute i'll see if i can find those again.

**Fovezer** · 12-13-09, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I love how you two are on the attack with dex but have yet to look up even if they are acidic. Yes they are and the do contribute to acid rain. I'll be it minutely but yes they do. They decompose on the ground causing acid rich soil so when it rains some of the acids are washed into water ways. At that point i guess you get the picture.

He didn't even bring up that sea sprays and lighting also create acid rain. He did mention volcanones and it looks like it was passed over. I guess that was to easy to figure out so it wasn't worth trying to argue.

Your argument makes no sense. Yes, there are natural causes of acid rain. The point is the INCREASE in acid rain we are seeing is a direct result of man. Pine needles are not suddenly increasing the amount, and neither are volcanoes. 2/3rds of all the SO2 and 1/4th of all NOx released in the US comes from man-made sources.

Originally Posted by Potemkine

But on another note, Hawg. Chill the fuck out dude. Your stirring the pot on this more than what is necessary. Dex, and deathgod are bringing up points of science and your essentially degenerating this conversation into argument ad hominum. We are all better than that.

It's not hawg. Hawg confronted and dex he went all crazy over Al Gore for some reason.

**deathgodusmc** · 12-13-09, 03:03 PM

Its not the originals i was reading but they are basically the same just these are older.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/Y2...neticfield.htm

The pole kept going during the 20th century, north at an average speed of 10 km per year, lately accelerating "to 40 km per year," says Newitt. At this rate it will exit North America and reach Siberia in a few decades.

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/GGGUN260NDC_Protecting_0.html

Claus Fröhlich of the Physikalisch-Meteorologisches Observatorium, Switzerland, will report the latest results from his VIRGO instrument on the ESA-NASA SOHO spacecraft. These show an increase of about 0.1 per cent in visible solar radiation since SOHO was launched in 1995, at the last sunspot minimum.

Not to hot on this one but it leads in that direction. I will continue to try and find the one i was reading.

**DJ Ms. White** · 12-13-09, 03:11 PM

Isn't the polar shift happening at a faster rate since it's about time for a complete swap of North and South Poles (currently the South Pole geographically speaking is a North Pole I think)?