Thread: True or False....Global Warming

I was simple stating that you guys over reacted to what he said about it. All he said was

So you don't think that acids are naturally occurring? How about pine needles (very acidic,and when they dissolve the acid finds it's way into lakes and streams and evaporated into the atmosphere)...or volcanoes...or countless other things in nature. And how has acid affected climate again?

There is absolutely no solid proof that man has anything to do with the climate. Sure,we need to conserve and find cleaner sources of power (even though we have had the tech for the cleanest power possible,but it is illeagle here thanks to the foresight and vision of Jimmy Carter),but to suggest that man>nature is absurd.

Of which is a true set of statements. The issue has not been proven 100% without a doubt.

Of which you and hawg said

And, of course, you provide absolutely nothing to actually support your view. Just a bunch of hypothetical maybe's. The USGS says you are wrong, though: "Acid rain is a uniquely human-related phenomenon."


To suggest that man has no impact on the patterns of nature is even more absurd. Please do tell how pine needles create acid rain in let's say, Manila, Philippines versus Russia or England.

Of which are misleading. Acid rain is not uniquely human. Of which i have to assume was suggesting that we are the only things that cause acid rain and dex never suggested that man has no impacts on patterns of nature. You guys went to the extreme on the topic. When he was talking about contributing factors.

Originally Posted by Mr. White

Isn't the polar shift happening at a faster rate since it's about time for a complete swap of North and South Poles (currently the South Pole geographically speaking is a North Pole I think)?

From what i have read we cant really be over due because there isnt a set pattern. The last one estimated at 740,000 years ago. However it kind of leads to the fact that it would seem to be overdue while your reading it. If you get what i mean.

I cant seem to find it again but it was on this web page. When i get bored again i will continue the search.

http://www.usno.navy.mil/

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Of which are misleading. Acid rain is not uniquely human. Of which i have to assume was suggesting that we are the only things that cause acid rain and dex never suggested that man has no impacts on patterns of nature. You guys went to the extreme on the topic. When he was talking about contributing factors.

It doesn't change the fact that most acid rain is caused by man-made sources. Yes, there are times there can be natural acid rain, but the majority of it is man-made. So while the USGS site may have oversimplified a bit, it was after all an educational part of their site, they were pretty much correct. He was downplaying and writing off man's involvement here, try to make claims that the huge increase we see in acid rain is from pine needles and the like. That is just flat-out wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_ra..._acidification

Originally Posted by Mr. White

Uh, wouldn't the amount caused by pine needles and volcanoes have stayed roughly constant over the years, so an increase would have to be from somewhere else?

Exactly. Hence, human activity is the cause. Just look at how much sulfur oxide and nitrous oxides we put out compared to natural sources, too.

Originally Posted by THATriggerHappy

i bet they flip on 2012 BUM BUM BUM!!!

The only way that it would hold the prophecy true is if it ends up in the middle east. At least i think thats what i remember the phophecy being. Either way i dont think i'll be holding my breath for anything to happen in 2012. Just gonna be another y2k.

Originally Posted by Fovezer

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Of which are misleading. Acid rain is not uniquely human. Of which i have to assume was suggesting that we are the only things that cause acid rain and dex never suggested that man has no impacts on patterns of nature. You guys went to the extreme on the topic. When he was talking about contributing factors.

It doesn't change the fact that most acid rain is caused by man-made sources. Yes, there are times there can be natural acid rain, but the majority of it is man-made. So while the USGS site may have oversimplified a bit, it was after all an educational part of their site, they were pretty much correct. He was downplaying and writing off man's involvement here, try to make claims that the huge increase we see in acid rain is from pine needles and the like. That is just flat-out wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_ra..._acidification

He wasnt downplaying it. He simply made a statement and it was interpreted as down playing it. In either case not really worth debating. Your right man does create acid rain and he was right nature creates acid rain.