True or False....Global Warming

**Fovezer** · 12-13-09, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

And of course the you dont understand comment comes out. Believe it or not people understand many things every though they do not always agree with each other. Get past the you think you know better part and get to where you can prove it wrong part. We both know you cant so why dont we just skip the whole thing. You stating a couple things that can be retreived off any web site doesn't make you an expert. It does mean you at least looked but failed to follow the whole thing through.

Do you at least have the understanding on it that acid in soil runs into water ways, is evaporated, and comes back down through rain? Do you understand that lightning itself causes acid rain? How about seaspray? Do you see how the whole you dont understand thing can be a little annoying on top of being pretty much an insult to someones intelligence?

But it is formed by two specific acids that require specific chemicals to be emitted, and those are ones WE emit TONS of by burning things. Much more than nature. My point never was that there aren't some natural causes, but rather that the dramatic increase we have seen is the sole result of human activity. That is certain, as in we KNOW that is the reason. The things you have mention have been happening long before the Industrial Revolution, so that is pretty much a constant. Anything above that is man-made.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

So how about you just except the fact that man and nature both create acid rain or do we have to go back farther in time before we were even here and talk about the acid rain that was happening before man.

Are you, then, willing to accept that man is the cause for the vast majority of acid rain today?

**~~hawgballs~~** · 12-14-09, 09:10 AM

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**CivilWars** · 12-14-09, 09:14 AM

True or false 20 pages here, plus countless others in other topics, have taught me that you can find "proof" of anything you choose to believe if you look hard enough, and that no matter how much "proof" you have people still won't believe you if they choose not to do so. :9

**~~hawgballs~~** · 12-14-09, 09:22 AM

I can concur.

**dex71** · 12-14-09, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

I can concur.

x2

I don't think anyone ever changes each others minds,but it does make people think about their own positions. Hawg knows I don't mean any harm,and vice versa.

I just want that sammich named after me.

It might be worth the trip down to Chi-Town....I haven't been there in a while.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 12-14-09, 09:29 AM

I told you, there will definitely be a sammie named after you, "The Slack Jawed Yokel".

**dex71** · 12-14-09, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

I told you, there will definitely be a sammie named after you, "The Slack Jawed Yokel".

:9

It needs to have sauerkraut. Fresh....not that canned shit. And none of those liberal veggies like alfalfa sprouts.

**Highstakes72** · 12-14-09, 09:34 AM

Just thowing this out there as far as acid rain is concerned...Like most things in the biosphere man may be a contributor, perhaps even have a sensitizing effect but solely responsible...I do not think so IMO.

"...Large, explosive volcanic eruptions inject water vapor (H2O), carbon dioxide (CO2), sulfur dioxide (SO2), hydrogen chloride (HCl), hydrogen fluoride (HF) and ash (pulverized rock and pumice) into the stratosphere to heights of 16–32 kilometres (10–20 mi) above the Earth's surface. The most significant impacts from these injections come from the conversion of sulfur dioxide to sulfuric acid (H2SO4), which condenses rapidly in the stratosphere to form fine sulfate aerosols. The aerosols increase the Earth's albedo—its reflection of radiation from the Sun back into space - and thus cool the Earth's lower atmosphere or troposphere; however, they also absorb heat radiated up from the Earth, thereby warming the stratosphere. Several eruptions during the past century have caused a decline in the average temperature at the Earth's surface of up to half a degree (Fahrenheit scale) for periods of one to three years — sulfur dioxide from the eruption of Huaynaputina probably caused the Russian famine of 1601 - 1603. The sulfate aerosols also promote complex chemical reactions on their surfaces that alter chlorine and nitrogen chemical species in the stratosphere. This effect, together with increased stratospheric chlorine levels from chlorofluorocarbon pollution, generates chlorine monoxide (ClO), which destroys ozone (O3). As the aerosols grow and coagulate, they settle down into the upper troposphere where they serve as nuclei for cirrus clouds and further modify the Earth's radiation balance. Most of the hydrogen chloride (HCl) and hydrogen fluoride (HF) are dissolved in water droplets in the eruption cloud and quickly fall to the ground as acid rain..."

and...

as far as the OP is concerned...I have no interest in rehashing old arguments.