Mexico close to collapse?

**Blakeman** · 02-27-09, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Everyone always says the same thing legalize this and that but these. Bullshit it should be illegal if you need any of them then you need rehab not a single one is good for you in anyway shape or form. I know this really pisses off the pot heads but guess what it has been proven that your arguement that weed isnt bad for is full of shit. I smoke cigarettes but i dont run around inhaling smoke saying its not bad for you and weed is worse if you want the proof it's out there if you cant find it's because you don't want to. We could end all of this shit with the cartels but mexico will not let us and probably never will. So due to their decisions they have no right to bitch about whats going on until they bring it to the table and say ok go for it. Not saying it would be easy but we already know where most of the cartels are a couple skippers in the right general area could end the head and the production. If there is no plant then there is no problem. Sure they will be alot of people walking around shaking but thats there own fault no mercy for the weak.

By that right we should make chocolate, beer, wine, candy and chewing gum illegal, as you don't need any of them and they are bad for you. Everyone knows that inhaling any kind of smoke is normally bad for you, yet cigarettes are still here and a major source of tax. Legalizing it would bring in real companies and actually create jobs since there would be an industry around it. I don't smoke it at all, but I have no problem with legalizing it, regulating it, and taxing it. The cartels wouldnt have business if it was legal since there would be more competition than they could smack down.

We shouldn't let Mexico's problems become our own, but we also shouldn't let any innocents in all this get stomped on because the Mexican government cannot maintain order in their own country.

**jason_jinx** · 02-27-09, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Everyone always says the same thing legalize this and that but these. Bullshit it should be illegal if you need any of them then you need rehab not a single one is good for you in anyway shape or form. I know this really pisses off the pot heads but guess what it has been proven that your arguement that weed isnt bad for is full of shit. I smoke cigarettes but i dont run around inhaling smoke saying its not bad for you and weed is worse if you want the proof it's out there if you cant find it's because you don't want to. We could end all of this shit with the cartels but mexico will not let us and probably never will. So due to their decisions they have no right to bitch about whats going on until they bring it to the table and say ok go for it. Not saying it would be easy but we already know where most of the cartels are a couple skippers in the right general area could end the head and the production. If there is no plant then there is no problem. Sure they will be alot of people walking around shaking but thats there own fault no mercy for the weak.

That was the biggest paragraph of crap I have ever read.

Go do some research then come back.

**ninja|oaklandr** · 02-27-09, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by jason_jinx

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Everyone always says the same thing legalize this and that but these. Bullshit it should be illegal if you need any of them then you need rehab not a single one is good for you in anyway shape or form. I know this really pisses off the pot heads but guess what it has been proven that your arguement that weed isnt bad for is full of shit. I smoke cigarettes but i dont run around inhaling smoke saying its not bad for you and weed is worse if you want the proof it's out there if you cant find it's because you don't want to. We could end all of this shit with the cartels but mexico will not let us and probably never will. So due to their decisions they have no right to bitch about whats going on until they bring it to the table and say ok go for it. Not saying it would be easy but we already know where most of the cartels are a couple skippers in the right general area could end the head and the production. If there is no plant then there is no problem. Sure they will be alot of people walking around shaking but thats there own fault no mercy for the weak.

That was the biggest paragraph of crap I have ever read.

Go do some research then come back.

Completely agree.

**PowerCock** · 02-27-09, 01:15 PM

Sad news for Mexico guys. According to that Russian, they were supposed to absorb part of the US too.

**Flea** · 02-27-09, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by PowerCock

Sad news for Mexico guys. According to that Russian, they were supposed to absorb part of the US too.

then, blam, just like that the democrats increase their voting base by an entire countries population, sealing Obama in office for longer than 2 terms. oh yes, they could do that.

**Red_Lizard2** · 02-27-09, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by H?b

Mexico's economy is REALLY going to take a hit during this Spring Break.

An e-mail sent to all students, faculty, etc in the Texas State system. These types of messages were sent out to most, if not all college campuses.

The United States Department of State has issued an advisory regarding travel in Mexico over Spring Break. We encourage all students, faculty and staff to visit the link below to read the entire advisory. It is also accessible through a link on the university's home page at txstate.edu.

Please have an enjoyable and SAFE Spring Break, and exercise great caution if traveling south of the border.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p...xico_2812.html

But the good news is it will also help our economy because kids will stay in the U.S. to get drunk and party.

**33knight33** · 02-28-09, 07:04 PM

from what i can remember in history class the "green stuff" was outlawed around the time (late 19th century) it was being used to make paper.

i forgot the man's name, but he was a typical robber baron style businessman. He had strong interests in paper production and so he invested heavily in paper, then used his power (money) to persuade some congressmen to prohibit "the green stuff" due to its negative effects from smoking.

so the ban was laid for almost purely monetary interests and was not because the gov't was concerned for our health.

**Agent** · 02-28-09, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Blakeman

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Everyone always says the same thing legalize this and that but these. Bullshit it should be illegal if you need any of them then you need rehab not a single one is good for you in anyway shape or form. I know this really pisses off the pot heads but guess what it has been proven that your arguement that weed isnt bad for is full of shit. I smoke cigarettes but i dont run around inhaling smoke saying its not bad for you and weed is worse if you want the proof it's out there if you cant find it's because you don't want to. We could end all of this shit with the cartels but mexico will not let us and probably never will. So due to their decisions they have no right to bitch about whats going on until they bring it to the table and say ok go for it. Not saying it would be easy but we already know where most of the cartels are a couple skippers in the right general area could end the head and the production. If there is no plant then there is no problem. Sure they will be alot of people walking around shaking but thats there own fault no mercy for the weak.

By that right we should make chocolate, beer, wine, candy and chewing gum illegal, as you don't need any of them and they are bad for you. Everyone knows that inhaling any kind of smoke is normally bad for you, yet cigarettes are still here and a major source of tax. Legalizing it would bring in real companies and actually create jobs since there would be an industry around it. I don't smoke it at all, but I have no problem with legalizing it, regulating it, and taxing it. The cartels wouldnt have business if it was legal since there would be more competition than they could smack down.

We shouldn't let Mexico's problems become our own, but we also shouldn't let any innocents in all this get stomped on because the Mexican government cannot maintain order in their own country.

Amen, Regulating and taxing it would be the intelligent way of going about it.

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Originally Posted by jason_jinx

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Everyone always says the same thing legalize this and that but these. Bullshit it should be illegal if you need any of them then you need rehab not a single one is good for you in anyway shape or form. I know this really pisses off the pot heads but guess what it has been proven that your arguement that weed isnt bad for is full of shit. I smoke cigarettes but i dont run around inhaling smoke saying its not bad for you and weed is worse if you want the proof it's out there if you cant find it's because you don't want to. We could end all of this shit with the cartels but mexico will not let us and probably never will. So due to their decisions they have no right to bitch about whats going on until they bring it to the table and say ok go for it. Not saying it would be easy but we already know where most of the cartels are a couple skippers in the right general area could end the head and the production. If there is no plant then there is no problem. Sure they will be alot of people walking around shaking but thats there own fault no mercy for the weak.

That was the biggest paragraph of crap I have ever read.

Go do some research then come back.

Completely agree.

Seriously.

**jason_jinx** · 02-28-09, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by 33knight33

from what i can remember in history class the "green stuff" was outlawed around the time (late 19th century) it was being used to make paper.

i forgot the man's name, but he was a typical robber baron style businessman. He had strong interests in paper production and so he invested heavily in paper, then used his power (money) to persuade some congressmen to prohibit "the green stuff" due to its negative effects from smoking.

so the ban was laid for almost purely monetary interests and was not because the gov't was concerned for our health.

Someone has done their homework!!!!

Gj bro at least some in these forums actually do the research.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-01-09, 10:35 AM

Ok i'm game lets debate it. You say its crap and your arguement is based off of cigarettes and alcohol are bad to so they should be illegal as well. First off i don't drink so the alcohol wouldn't bother me a bit if it was illegal but if you do your research like people keep telling people to do like they are the only one who went to school then you would know they tried that already. Alcohol has effects that last for hours with the possibility of death from it in the long run unless your one of the truely stupid and and drink your self to death in one night. This of course excludes death from dui's and such. Smoking as far i have been able to find there has never been a single case of a one time smoker that died it does kill in the long run most of the time. As for making it illegal if you follow the path of whats going on with it you'll see i kind of looks like its going in that direction. Which would such but i needed to quit anyway.
However from the end that illegal drugs do kill and can be a one time deal and your dead. Needing these drugs any of them is a weakness of an unintelligent individual. That statement intended for those who use any of the harder stuff. Now for the one that going to piss everyone off. Weed it's funny how the only ones that want to say weed ins't addictive are the potheads. There is scientific proof that weed is addictive so argueing your point of you smoke weed and your not addicted is no more true than mine of i smoke cigarettes and im not addicted so lets just get passed that one. I have owned and managed businesses since 91 and let me be the first to tell you. You can tell the difference between someone who smoked alittle before work and the visine trick you guys have going on doesn't work its not the red in your eyes that give it away. One of my favorites is i work better when i've smoked. Trust me its only in your mind do you work better after having some. You generally are slower and less detail orianted. So in my line of work that makes you worthless. Now back on topic when you smoke you all seem to have your favorite type why do you think that is could it possibly be you like what was added to the product.
I seriously doubt they will ever legalize drugs and hope they don't. We have enough problems with drug addicts in this country without them being able to go into 7-11 and get more without reprecussions. The only one that would stand a chance is weed but as soon as the happens you'll someone standing there wanting another drug legalised because its no worse than pot. As for it generating revenue and jobs thats a bunch of bullshit. The same assholes dealing with the drugs now would be the same ones after with the job or you can argue they would be out of a job but the same guy selling you soda would be putting pot in your bag to. In that case you didn't create a job you took one away. What revenue would be created? If your reffering to taxing the drugs then in the right it would be those same taxes paying for the rehab or the law suites from accidental overdose. It's not like people aren't sue crazy in this country or anything. A kid gets hurt riding a skate board in a strip mall the parents sue the property managment for millions what do you think is going to happen if a kid overdoses on a legal drug?
I personally have never done any drugs barely take asprin but have been around it my entire life and have seen first hand what they can do. Had a cousin that used to make acid in his basement. My best buddy smokes weed like a frigin freight train. Had employees that i considered freinds do everything up to crack whatever they could get there hands on. You want to argue some are good for pain thats fine to im in pain 24-7 from getting hurt in the corps been offered methydon, oxycodone, and gabipentin for the rest of my life so please if you want to debate lets tell me what a good side of legalising any of these drugs would be but do us both a favor and think it thru without what benifits it would have on a personal level.