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**jason_jinx** · 03-01-09, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I don't really see how im a trained robot as someone who has never smoked it by choice and have been around people smoking it thousands of times. I don't care if people do whatever they want with their own body but when it spills onto others it becomes a problem. Have you ever gone to a rehab center or even a va hospital and seen what drugs do to people. It's devistating they not only ruin their lives they take eveyone around them that cares with them as well. Even the prescibed medication ruin lives if i took the drugs they keep trying to give my life span would decrease by almost 15 years assuming i don't get hit by a bus or something. Thats what they do yes they can help but even when they do they damage something else. Understand what im saying i dont think that weed is bad for people the good it can do actually outways whats bad but if you legalise even weed then you'll have the next one in line saying it's not that bad it should be legal to. I am not close minded i just look ahead at what the reprecutions can be.

Yes it is true drugs do destroy some families.
You keep bundling all drugs together in one basket and you cannot do that.
Well...... yes they are technically all drugs but they are levels of effects and after effects.
You cannot compare people who are in rehab for crack and meth to a person who smokes and is still able to perform in society.

There are more working class Americans who drink beer and smoke a little herb than there are people in rehab for harsh drugs. There will always be someone to abuse something.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-01-09, 08:33 PM

I agree with you but thats why laws are in place its not because it was thought to be a good idea ahead of time it was always because some asshole had to ruin it for everyone else. Not saying it's right to punish everyone for the acts of a few but it seems to be the only way to get everyones attention. Unfortunately it works. I group them together strictly on the fact that they are all illegal drugs in no way shape or form do i personally think a pothead is going to go into a store and rob it so he can get more weed like a crackhead. It has happened but it isn't the typical behavor of someone that smokes weed. The real problem has never been the drugs in any case it has always been the individual taking them.

**33knight33** · 03-01-09, 08:43 PM

i really wish people would head the moderators who have expressed that it is not good for the TTP website to keep using keywords that would put us on a bad list that we dont belong on.

is it so hard to call it green stuff instead?

**Pineapple!** · 03-01-09, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I agree with you but thats why laws are in place its not because it was thought to be a good idea ahead of time it was always because some asshole had to ruin it for everyone else. Not saying it's right to punish everyone for the acts of a few but it seems to be the only way to get everyones attention. Unfortunately it works. I group them together strictly on the fact that they are all illegal drugs in no way shape or form do i personally think a pothead is going to go into a store and rob it so he can get more weed like a crackhead. It has happened but it isn't the typical behavor of someone that smokes weed. The real problem has never been the drugs in any case it has always been the individual taking them.

And this is why you're a moron.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-01-09, 08:48 PM

no offense but your actually you insulted me so fuck that your statement make sense if you have issues with what was written that is what makes you the moron

**Pineapple!** · 03-01-09, 08:52 PM

Actually, my apologies.

It was your lack of grammar that mislead me, and I thought you were equating a smoker with a crackhead, and they would both rob for habit-money.

I completely apologize for my misunderstanding, and hope that in the future you can use correct grammar so we both can avoid this miscommunication again.

**Mudstalker** · 03-01-09, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Pineapple!

Actually, my apologies.

It was your lack of grammar that mislead me, and I thought you were equating a smoker with a crackhead, and they would both rob for habit-money.

I completely apologize for my misunderstanding, and hope that in the future you can use correct grammar so we both can avoid this miscommunication again.

Agreed.

Now my two cents:

"Sure, there will be people walking around shaking but that's their problem, no mercy for the weak."

No one will ever start shaking if they stop smoking bud. No one. However, if an alcoholic stops drinking, or a smoker stops smoking cigs, THEY will start shaking. Hmmmm...

There is absolutely NO evidence of marijuana being addictive or causing long term health effects. MANY scientists have studied this, and all of them came back with the same results. I.E. The "Above the Influence" commercials. I don't see commercials that say you will die if you smoke weed anymore, because it's been proven false by non-biased research. Now all I see is, "Weed will make you lazy and make your friends dislike you. EVEN YOUR DOG WILL DISLIKE YOU!".....that's the best arguement people can come up with now.

It's a proven fact that alcohol and cigarettes are addictive and can/will cause death over time. The opposite has been proven about weed. Now...if weed is illegal, wouldn't it make sense for those two to be illegal as well? I mean, they will actually kill you. Hmmm.....

**ninja|oaklandr** · 03-01-09, 09:10 PM

Can we try using other names like MJ or green stuff. Like knight said the filters can pick this up and next time someone is searching google for the other names for MJ it might bring them here.

Don't want to see it locked if we are having a civil discussion because of that.

**Pineapple!** · 03-01-09, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Can we try using other names like MJ or green stuff. Like knight said the filters can pick this up and next time someone is searching google for the other names for MJ it might bring them here.

Don't want to see it locked if we are having a civil discussion because of that.

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**deathgodusmc** · 03-02-09, 06:24 AM

As far as i am concerned you could lock it now. The debate shows no merit. If both sides are just going to talk about what the facts are without providing any kind of validable proof.