Thread: PETA Killed 95 percent of adoptable pets in its care last year.

I hear ya hawg and while that may be what he meant it is not what he said. He then backed that up with this line.

Originally Posted by Captain Coors

And if they are...why not go to a retriever rescue and pickup a dog or two that someone else has grown tired of?

It is a tough enough task to train a lab to be a proficient hunter when it is bread into him and you raise him from a pup. Taking an abused dog or a dog someone was tired of and turning him into a duck dog would be almost impossible. Many of the rescue dogs are show stock or have very little skill in the blood line. It would take someone with way more time on their hands than I to grab a 1yr old dog and turn him into a hunter. A solid blind retrieve duck dog can sell for as much as $10,000 fully trained. You do not see many of them at the shelter.

I just think people need to be a little more careful about throwing out statements that cover a wide range like this. If you want a mut then get you one. I think they make awesome pets. Statistically muts do not make the best working dogs.

I am not a huge fan of the AKC and just because a dog is registered does not mean shit. That is the problem with shelter dogs. Normally they are composed of the "buy labs here for $75" type of dogs. Yes their blood line shows they are purebred but purebred full of what? My latest lab has master hunters and field champions throughout his blood line. He has no issues with illness going back 10 generations. He is an absolutely gorgeous and powerful animal. He is part of the family 10 months out of the year and a hunter for 2. There is no way I could have found a dog like him at a shelter. It would be liking finding a rolex at the thrift store.

He has thighs like Herschel Walker.

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Nuck

Originally Posted by Arreo

Originally Posted by Captain Coors

So? If people weren't obsessed with buying purebreds from breeders and pet stores then these animals wouldn't have to be destroyed.

Who among here bought a purebred from a breeder or a pet store? You killed a shelter dog with your choice.

If you want a purebred, go to a rescue group.

Otherwise, adopt a mutt.

Always find the source of the problem people.

Exactly.

I have worked for the Humane Society. It was a shelter that euthanized animals. It was really tough to watch some of the dogs and cats be put down.

But you know what was way tougher?

Having to intake a pair of St. Bernards who were all but dead because their owner kept these two big dogs in a 4'x3'x6' foot concrete box. They both had raw, bleeding leasions from the abrasion with the concrete that were infected for weeks. One of them had a foot that had been broken in multiple places for over three months and was never treated. She lost her leg below the knee.

Or the dogs that cowered in fear from me because I was a tall man and in their experience tall men only abused them, beat them or kicked them around.

Or the cats that were starved to within an inch of their life. Who had every form of parasite known to science. Who's hearts were surrounded and being eaten by heartworms because their owners couldn't spend $10 a month to get them heartworm pills.

Or the black labs who people abandoned on the sides of roads because one time they thought it would be great to mate their lab with a buddies lab without bothering to think of how to take care of the puppies.

Or seeing animals that would never, ever be adopted because they had such deep seated behavioral issues that no amount of love would ever solve. Issues they developed after being abused, ignored, or unloved by the very people who bought them.

The problem isn't PETA killing animals, the problem is the stupidity and indifference of people that puts animals in situations where the only humane thing to do is put them down.

I agree that in extreme situations putting the pet down is the best option. But out of that 81% how many of them were extreme cases listed above? I'd find it hard to believe that it was anything greater then 10-15%. Which means the other pets are perfectly healthy, but the put them down because they don't have the will or desire to find them a home.


As for purebreads, nuckle hit it on the head, if you want a family dog sure get a mut. But if I want a dog to pull a sleigh I am not going to go out and pick up 10 muts. There's no dog like a husky in the snow and its bred into them to love the snow, love to pull, love to lead. You don't find that in a mut.

Let me point out some facts that I think were missed through out the posts:

Foremost, many shelters will refuse animals that require euthanasia, any group that accepts all animals, regardless of situation, will have a increased rate of euthanasia in comparison.

Secondly, Consumer Freedom is ran by Richard Berman who is a lobbyist and is backed by Philip Morris, KFC and countless other groups that have interest to discredit PETA.

Finally and most importantly, PETA does not run an adoption program, they refer adoptable animals to shelters. They are more comparable to hospice care for animals. The animals that end up in PETA's doctors offices have already been rejected by shelters.

Everyone will have their own views of PETA for a number of reasons. But look at the whole picture, not just some number and jump to conclusions.

I worded my post a little strongly, but I struggled with how I could write a post that says I am ok with people who buy purebreeds for hunting, etc., but regular Joe and Jane down the neighborhood should not buy a lab for little Johnny because they don't hunt or work him.

Nuck-I respect your hard work and love for the breed, and I can't argue, that beautiful dog you posted is a great fit for you. But it makes me then feel like a hypocrite saying that its cool for you to have one but not for that suburb family down the street that doesn't even know what a duck dummy is.

Dex-I always go to the source of demand. There are a lot of bad breeders I agree, but why are those backyard breeders in business. Its because of all of the people that buy a purebred outta someone's backyard or from petland. If people didn't do that, those bad breeders would have no business.

Bottomline is the vast majority of people who buy a purebred dog buy them because they want a fresh new good looking dog, when a mutt or rescue from the shelter would be just as good a companion, if not better, because many purebreds in the working class have breed tendencies that need to be exercised and challenged or they may turn into a poor family pet.

Getting on point I think that Peta wastes more money on stunts and advertising to get media attention! If they used half of the money they Waste maybe more animals could be Cared for rather than put down ! Further more I thought PETA stood for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals ?? !! Please tell me how ethical it is to gas dogs and cats ?? I have financial difficulties just like most people nowadays....however 3 little stray kittens have showed up at my house and I always manage to find the extra money to buy them food. I have 2 indoor cats and 3 outdoor cats now and I still feel its a Good Thing to help little critters unlike Peta...............

Originally Posted by BruceBloodMaster

Further more I thought PETA stood for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals ?? !! Please tell me how ethical it is to gas dogs and cats ?? I have financial difficulties just like most people nowadays....however 3 little stray kittens have showed up at my house and I always manage to find the extra money to buy them food. I have 2 indoor cats and 3 outdoor cats now and I still feel its a Good Thing to help little critters unlike Peta...............

When animals end up in PETA's care, they are dying and suffering. PETA does not take in animals that can be adopted, they transfer them to the local shelters.

Bruce i hear you. I have 4 dogs. Only 1 is not a rescue. One of them is a 50 50 malimute wolf mix that the state of florida deamed after its raid on the drug dealers house where they tear gases her that she was not adoptable and where going to put her down along with her brother and sister. I told them sorry but that doesn't work for me so i called the wolf sactuary in florida to force the "Humaine Society" to release them. I found 2 a home in one day and kept victoria which is now samantha. Her life up to then consisted of being beaten and starved on a daily bases. According to the experts she was to far gone personality wise showing the traits Arreo reffered to as uncorrectable behavior. It's been 3 monthes since i brought her home at a whopping 71 lbs of skin and bones (makes me so fuckin mad to see an animal that should be at least 140 lbs at half of what their weight should be) and shes still skidish but 2 years of abuse would do that to anyone or anything.
The other one that has kind of interesting story is max. A miniture pincher that his owner threw out of moving car in the middle of SR434 here in winter springs. I wish i would of got his tag but it was more important to get him out of traffic and to a vet. Hes been with me now for 7 years and has always looked like a brown pot belly pig. Which they finally figured out when he was diagnosed with glacoma that he has a thyrod problem. Thats a first for me something thats fat that realy does have a thyrod problem not just a issue with never putting the food down.
If your wondering where this is going it's simple PETA is full of shit. They put down animals that have nothing wrong with them. Everyone that knows me and wants a pet or needs to find a home for a pet knows they can call and i will find one. Even the ones with "uncorrectable behavior" can be placed. There is a reason they act the way they do and it takes time but its nothing more than a trust issue. Look at it from their eyes how much faith would you have in a creature that has shown you nothing but pain and misery. So inconclusion fuck PETA and their fake helping the animals bullshit so they can get rich.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

They put down animals that have nothing wrong with them.

We may have different definitions on what "nothing wrong with them" means, but I have to point out that this statement is false which ever way you look at it.

Yeah I always wanted to break into the upper echelon of PETA so I can get rich....