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04-15-09, 09:05 AM #1
How to prevent foreign invasion
The Cuban Missile Crisis was a confrontation between the United States, the Soviet Union, and Cuba in the early 1960s during the Cold War. In Russia, it is termed the "Caribbean Crisis" (Russian: , Karibskiy krizis), while in Cuba it is called the "October Crisis". The crisis ranks with the Berlin Blockade as one of the major confrontations of the Cold War, and is generally regarded as the moment in which the Cold War came closest to a nuclear war.[1]
The United States feared the Soviet expansion of communism or socialism, but for a Latin American country to ally openly with the USSR was regarded as unacceptable, given the Russo-American enmity since the end of the Second World War in 1945. Such an involvement would also directly defy the Monroe Doctrine which prevented European powers from getting involved in South American matters.
In late 1961, Kennedy engaged Operation Mongoose, a series of covert operations against Castro's government. They were unsuccessful.[2] More overtly, in February 1962, the United States launched an economic embargo against Cuba.[3]
The United States also considered covert action. Air Force General Curtis LeMay presented to Kennedy a pre-invasion bombing plan in September, while spy flights and minor military harassment from the United States Guantanamo Naval Base were the subject of continual Cuban diplomatic complaints to the U.S. government.
In September 1962, the Cuban government saw significant evidence that the U.S. would invade, including a joint U.S. Congressional resolution authorising the use of military force in Cuba if American interests were threatened,[4] and the announcement of a U.S. military exercise in the Caribbean planned for the following month (Operation Ortsac).
As a consequence, Castro and Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev agreed to secretly place strategic nuclear missiles in Cuba. Like Castro, Khrushchev felt that a U.S. invasion of Cuba was imminent, and that to lose Cuba would do great harm to his prestige worldwide, especially in Latin America. He said that he wanted to confront the Americans "with more than words...the logical answer was missiles."[5]
The tensions were at their height from October 8, 1962. On October 14, United States reconnaissance saw the missile bases being built in Cuba. The crisis ended two weeks later on October 28, 1962, when the President of the United States John F. Kennedy and the United Nations Secretary-General U Thant reached an agreement with the Soviets to dismantle the missiles in Cuba in exchange for a no-invasion agreement. Khrushchev's request that the Jupiter and Thor missiles in Turkey be removed was ignored by the Kennedy administration and not pressed by the Soviet Union.[6]
Kennedy gave a key warning in his first public speech on the crisis (October 22, 1962):
It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union.[7]
This speech included another key policy:
To halt this offensive buildup, a strict quarantine on all offensive military equipment under shipment to Cuba is being initiated. All ships of any kind bound for Cuba from whatever nation and port will, if found to contain cargoes of offensive weapons, be turned back. This quarantine will be extended, if needed, to other types of cargo and carriers. We are not at this time, however, denying the necessities of life as the Soviets attempted to do in their Berlin blockade of 1948.
Kennedy ordered intensified surveillance, and cited cooperation from the foreign ministers of the Organization of American States (OAS). Kennedy "directed the Armed Forces to prepare for any eventualities; and I trust that in the interest of both the Cuban people and the Soviet technicians at the sites, the hazards to all concerned of continuing the threat will be recognised." He called for emergency meetings of the OAS and United Nations Security Council to deal with the matter.[7]
Makes me think of North Korea.
Bush did deem it a Evil Axis and once you do that well there is no going back on it.
Seems NK plan is straight forward. Obtain nukes, show nuclear power, then strike a good diplomatic deal to dismantle coming out on top.
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04-15-09, 09:18 AM #2
Re: How to prevent foreign invasion
The main reason why Cuba affected the US so much was because of its proximity to the USA. If the Soviet Union would have stocked up nukes on their side of the wall in Europe, we probably would not have cared as much. A viable nuclear threat to us within 100 miles of our closest state, not to mention the range of ICBM's at the time was about 1500 miles, so they were well within range of New York, Washington DC, Boston, Baltimore, Philadelphia and even Chicago at the extreme edge of it. That was the biggest reason for the scare in during the whole crisis.
I really do not see North Korea being as bad as a situation as Cuba was in the 1960's. The situation really lacks the proximity for us to put too much time into it, but at the same time we will have to pay attention to it as well.
Also keep in mind that Castro never had control of the nuclear weapons in Cuba, there were Soviet troops manning them. Even though Castro hates what the US stands for and is about, he was/is not crazy enough to launch a nuclear attack against the states. Khrushchev was the same way as well. he knew the strategic value of having the weapons there, but was never really going to use them against the US in fear of a nuclear war. Now looking at the current situation, Kim Jong Ill is one crazy mother fucker, almost as bad as the Iranian president, so he might be fucked up in the head enough to conisder a nuclear attack against the US or one of our allies. But who knows.
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04-15-09, 09:29 AM #3
Re: How to prevent foreign invasion
You have nukes in your country no matter where they came from...... you now have world respect and attention.
NK having nukes is a threat because Japan is one of our allies and we back them up. We send out 60% of our naval fleet to the region to begin a forceful disarm.
There is a chance that NK will feel cornered and then will send thoes missles out to sea.
We dont want that to happen so we have talks on a diplomatic level until the U.N. is blue in the face. Then when the deal sounds good NK will sign on for good establishing itself at the main table for high rollers.
Really what other way is there to establish yourself as a nuclear superpower?
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04-15-09, 10:19 AM #4
Re: How to prevent foreign invasion
Don't' worry Obama has shown his Diplomatic chops with this whole Pirate Crisis so NK is perfectly ok with having a Nuke!
/sarc
The issue at hand is not with NK's ability to fling their warheads via ICBM as they lack good tracking technology unless Obama pulls a Clinton and trades secrets for contributions for 2012. The problem is NK has no problem with sharing Nuke tech with crazy fools in the middle east for money. Remember that strange hush hush bombing in Syria done by the IAF back in September '07? Yeah that was all NK personnel and material.
Thankfully I live in Texas and no one ever thinks to blow up Texas. So good by New York, I will miss your pizza.
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04-15-09, 10:25 AM #5
Re: How to prevent foreign invasion
And I live in North Dakota, still on the top5 target list for most countries that have nuclear powers.
But then again, you dont even need nuclear weapons to get attention on the world scene or be respected as a nuclear threat. Take Iran for example, they had the possibility of creating weapons grade plutonium with one of their reactors and we jumped all over that, and now its imploded last time I checked.
To me this is pretty much North Korea acting like a 2 year old, crying because they need attention. They just happen to do it in a nuclear form instead of a crying rage.
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04-16-09, 09:57 PM #6
Re: How to prevent foreign invasion
http://www.survivalring.org/cd-targets.php
A list for why where you live would be a target for a nuclear strike. Breaks it down in primar, secondary, and tertiary. Little off topic but interesting. As for NK not having the targeting systems to launch an icbm to the states i don't know if i would say they lack it. The bought everything else why wouldn't they get a targeting system as well. The bigger issue for them is they haven't built an icbm yet just a multistage missile. Granted there isn't much difference other than size and distance. Chances are that it won't take them long to make a larger scale missile with will have the capabilities to reach the US. But we'll see what happens.
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04-16-09, 11:00 PM #7Re: How to prevent foreign invasion
read it, and outside the fact the website is uber paranoid (almost certain terrorist going to nuke us......rigggghhhttttt) i also love the list for Arizona its all the military Bases
No mention of Palo Verde though lol. No terrorist wouldn't want to attack a nuclear facility.
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