Thread: Your Tax Dollars at Work: Gays and Whores

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

Originally Posted by Gumby

sheesh,
those programs you listed are small potatoes compared to what I see dollar-wise wasted by the military every day.
I have gotten physically ill seeing it sometimes.

Literally, millions of dollars, are wasted regularly because of a GO or SES changes his mind on a whim. My favorite though was when they spent $2.1 million to save $500,000. Then when money is really needed for something that actually affects the mission, that is when they decide to be tightwads!
Makes no sense...

I agree...if we cut out even half of the crap programs we fund...we could cut out a huge chunk of our debt.

Or we could get rid of the Private Federal Reserve and we will not be in debt.

Originally Posted by Blakeman

Originally Posted by WorstPE

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

Originally Posted by Gumby

sheesh,
those programs you listed are small potatoes compared to what I see dollar-wise wasted by the military every day.
I have gotten physically ill seeing it sometimes.

Literally, millions of dollars, are wasted regularly because of a GO or SES changes his mind on a whim. My favorite though was when they spent $2.1 million to save $500,000. Then when money is really needed for something that actually affects the mission, that is when they decide to be tightwads!
Makes no sense...

I agree...if we cut out even half of the crap programs we fund...we could cut out a huge chunk of our debt.

Or we could get rid of the Private Federal Reserve and we will not be in debt.

And stop being world police....

and cut down the amount of our standing military...

and stop overseas funding...

and paying a politician for life..

and, and, and....

It will never happen unless we stop voting in folks who just want to work the system.

If we stop policing the world what do you think is going to happen? Is everyone all of a sudden going to start getting along? Or will we end up in a world that would tear itself apart?

As for the politcians we definitely agree.

Overseas is a tricky topic. It's not as simple as just stopping it. Our money and reasources feed, clothe, and keep countries from being overun. It's also part of how the dollar gets it's value. Do i think our government should be paying companies to send jobs overseas no. Clinton past that bill but wasn't the orignator of it. It was a bad idea from day one. Thats just one thing in a series of stupid ideas that has put this country where it is right now.

Originally Posted by Blakeman

At some point there comes a time when we have to deal with our own problems and let the rest of these countries deal with their own. Does this mean let the Taliban take over Pakistan's nukes? No. Does this mean let the UN,NATO and all these other 'world' organizations take a bigger role? Yes.

I'm not saying full stop, but I bet we could cut the military down by 1/3 if we stopped taking care of things that don't matter as much to the American people.

So your saying peace isn't something that we need to worry about. I disagree. Check the stats on the UN and NATO see which part of it we fill then you will understand why we do what we do. As for our problems most of which are self inflicted. I don't mean that in the sence we did things dilerbately to sabotoch ourselfs but many bad decisions have put this country where it is.

Whats going on right now follows a trend of this countries history. Granted it went farther this time then most in the past but it's still maintains a pattern. Nothing is perfect there are always going to issues.

Cutting the military down isn't going to solve anything. In fact it would probably cause more problems then it would solve. Our military might is almost 2 million stong so your talking about putting a little under 670,000 people out of work. Not to mention all of the people that are affilated with the military.

Military contracts would be drastically reduced putting even more out of work. Federal funds for contracts are the lifes blood of many companies. Without those funds those companies disappear putting even more out of work.

Originally Posted by Blakeman

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by Blakeman

At some point there comes a time when we have to deal with our own problems and let the rest of these countries deal with their own. Does this mean let the Taliban take over Pakistan's nukes? No. Does this mean let the UN,NATO and all these other 'world' organizations take a bigger role? Yes.

I'm not saying full stop, but I bet we could cut the military down by 1/3 if we stopped taking care of things that don't matter as much to the American people.

So your saying peace isn't something that we need to worry about. I disagree. Check the stats on the UN and NATO see which part of it we fill then you will understand why we do what we do. As for our problems most of which are self inflicted. I don't mean that in the sence we did things dilerbately to sabotoch ourselfs but many bad decisions have put this country where it is.

Whats going on right now follows a trend of this countries history. Granted it went farther this time then most in the past but it's still maintains a pattern. Nothing is perfect there are always going to issues.

Cutting the military down isn't going to solve anything. In fact it would probably cause more problems then it would solve. Our military might is almost 2 million stong so your talking about putting a little under 670,000 people out of work. Not to mention all of the people that are affiliated with the military.

Military contracts would be drastically reduced putting even more out of work. Federal funds for contracts are the life's blood of many companies. Without those funds those companies disappear putting even more out of work.

This countries history since WW1.. so only about half, after that we were world leaders in the fight against communism (aka cold war). Now we just do it because we are used to it.

Pour the money we would use for those folks paychecks and pour it into the country and it would help with the unemployment. Fixing GM with our money surely isn't. Pouring it into the banks sure isn't.

Why are we a large part of UN and Nato? I ask you that.

Yes we are approximatly 73% of the UN.
I wouldn't even dream of saying pouring money into gm and banks would help the economy. Personally i thought it was a stupid idea to begin with. I would of have no objection in seeing capitol bank and so forth fall under. They've been fuckin people for decades with there interest rates and fees. If they didn't put money aside for times like this then thats there fault.

Gm I'm tossed on. On one hand you have a american icon. On the other you have a company that between 84 and 94 double it's price on vehciles. They kind of priced themselves out of business. The rule should apply the same though. Didn't put money aside tough shit for you.

Now had they of taken those funds and put them into the hands of regular people would it of really made a difference? I don't know. Some people are like me when they get money bills get paid first then you have fun. Others are the oposite bills are secondary to them.

I think it would have been more effective putting that money into the small businesses than what they did. Small businesses buy shit in hopes of becoming big business. Big business does just what they did give themselves bunoses and buy new planes for themselves.