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05-25-09, 04:57 PM #1
Iran's Ahmadinejad wants to debate Obama at UN
Even though it more than likely will not happen I think it would be badass to watch.
Also they need to have a fact-checker as one of the moderators.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090525/..._mi_ea/ml_iran
TEHRAN, Iran – Mahmoud Ahmadinejad proposed on Monday a face-to-face debate with President Barack Obama at the United Nations if he is re-elected next month as Iran's president.
But he balanced the offer with a sharp rebuke to Washington and its allies over Iran's nuclear program. He reiterated that Iran would never abandon its advances in uranium enrichment in exchange for offers of easing sanctions or other economic incentives.
The nuclear issue "is closed," he told a news conference.
Obama has urged a "serious process of engagement" after Iran's elections in an effort to end a nearly 30-year diplomatic chill. However last week, the American leader said the U.S. was prepared to seek deeper international sanctions against Tehran if it did not respond positively to the attempts to open negotiations on its nuclear program. Obama set a year-end deadline for Iran to show it wanted to engage with Washington.
The tough talk on nuclear negotiations following Iran's test last week of a long-range missile appear aimed at burnishing Ahmadinejad's hard-line credentials in the election campaign against another conservative and two pro-reform candidates.
His offer of to debate Obama could also be campaign posturing before the June 12 vote. But it does put Ahmadinejad on record as supporting a potentially groundbreaking encounter following Obama's offer for dialogue.
Ahmadinejad said that, if re-elected, he would be open to "debate global issues as well as world peace and security" during the U.N. General Assembly in September.
There was no immediate reaction from Washington.
On the nuclear issue, Ahmadinejad ruled out talks with the U.S. He said Iran's stand is "crystal clear" and Tehran would only discuss the subject within the framework of the U.N. nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency.
Ahmadinejad has often denounced the West for trying to pressure Iran to give up it uranium enrichment program, a process that can produce fuel for both nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. Tehran insists it is only to fuel peaceful reactors, but the West worries could lead to nuclear weapons development.
His latest comments appear to be part of a campaign strategy to portray himself as the only candidate capable to defending Iran's nuclear technology.
Last week, he accused his reformist predecessor, Mohammad Khatami, of bringing "humiliation" on Iran by agreeing to suspend uranium enrichment from 2003-5 as a confidence-building measure with the West.
That also served as a direct shot at Ahmadinejad's main reformist challenger, Mir Hossein Mousavi, who is backed by Khatami.
Ahmadinejad also faces another hard-liner, former Revolutionary Guard commander Mohsen Rezaei, and a moderate, former parliament speaker Mahdi Karroubi, in the four-way race.
Mousavi attacked Ahmadinejad's handling of the economy at a campaign rally in the northwestern city of Tabriz on Monday. Unemployment is rising and inflation has reached 25 percent, making the economy one of the president's most vulnerable points among voters.
"Iran is a rich country. Poverty is not our destiny. It's the government's mismanagement that has taken us here," Mousavi told tens of thousands of cheering supporters.
The campaign took a bitter turn over the weekend when reformists accused Ahmadinejad's supporters in the Islamic regime of blocking the popular social networking site Facebook, which has become an important tool to mobilize Iran's crucial youth vote.
More than half Iran's population was born after the 1979 Islamic Revolution and young voters represent a huge potential bloc for pro-reform candidates.
Ahmadinejad sidestepped questions about whether authorities ordered a Facebook block late last week. But he said he believed "in maximum freedom of expression."
"There are many Web sites active in the world that can be accessed in Iran. Many Web sites are against the government," he said, adding that officials "don't need to shut any sites shut down."
But Iran has cut off access to many blogs and Web sites critical of the Islamic regime and its ruling clerics. Media groups and others have strongly criticized Iran's clampdown on the web.
Mohammad Ali Abtahi, a former vice president and a top adviser to Karroubi's campaign, called the Facebook block "painful news for young and educated Iranians."
"(Ruling authorities) would only like their voice heard," he wrote in an e-mailed protest, claiming his own Facebook site had attracted more than 3,000 followers. "Any other voice (for them) is intolerable."
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05-25-09, 05:02 PM #2
Re: Iran's Ahmadinejad wants to debate Obama at UN
You know what bugs me.
The way our country is setup and how politics works its all about debate.
It makes me wonder if the debate really took place and Obama was put in his place then what? Is he avoiding a debate because there might be a chance he cannot logically backup what he believes when put in the hot seat.
I know.
Without his teleprompter he will be like a lost lil puppy.............. isn't that right republican's? lol
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05-25-09, 11:35 PM #5
Re: Iran's Ahmadinejad wants to debate Obama at UN
Originally Posted by jason_jinx
Amahdenijad is trying to get banned so that he can have the UN stage. It won't work for him against Obama just like it didn't work for MotoZ against bigdog. My money says that Obama won't give Amahdenijad stage time.
Bigdog schooled me on that shit.
Amahdenijad needs to go first at being nice if he wants to prevail. How does he do that? I dunno. Maybe bombing a North Korea nuke plant and helping irrigate Africa.
Debating on TTP is a blast. Debating is where the big boys play. We get to do it on TTP for a few bucks a month. That's a great bargain.
Damn I love me some TTP.
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05-26-09, 12:53 AM #8
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I spit on Obama? Why is that one of the choices? Sad.
Concerning a debate it would be pointless. The saying that you will lose arguing to an idiot b/c they will drag you down to their level and win on experience, aptly applies here.
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