Is waterboarding torture?

**triggerhappy2005** · 06-03-09, 03:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FMAefls-M

Watch and discuss.

**deathgodusmc** · 06-03-09, 08:05 AM

tor?ture??/?t?rt??r/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [tawr-cher] Show IPA noun, verb, -tured, -tur?ing.
–noun 1. the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.
2. a method of inflicting such pain.
3. Often, tortures. the pain or suffering caused or undergone.
4. extreme anguish of body or mind; agony.
5. a cause of severe pain or anguish.

By definition it kind of meets number 4 but overall i would say no by definition it is not torture.

**jason_jinx** · 06-03-09, 08:09 AM

I have a better one.

Jesse Ventura. Ex navy seal more hardcore than any of you ex-cons running around here :10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGkXR...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuaD6zbZqdQ

He puts that lil bitch on the right in his place.

Like he said when we want to talk about our government there are people like him who freak out and call us anti-american.

**Jester(TA)** · 06-03-09, 08:55 AM

Waterboarding isnt torture.Beheading people(like Daniel Pearl) is torchure.Id waterboard the fuck out of terrorists or worse.It would be as easy as washing my hands.Ive lost acouple friends in this war on terror and have no feelings towards them.I hear stories from other friends still active and wish death to all the terrorists and anyone that supports them I !.

**BruceBloodMaster** · 06-03-09, 08:59 AM

I support using pig fat to lube our Bullets Jester !

**CivilWars** · 06-03-09, 10:02 AM

Waterboarding probably is torture, and maybe even cruel and unusual, but the bigger question is are we allowed to break the rules to combat those who have no rules? Or what are the rules when fighting a cell/sect/group and not a true nation? Al Qaeda, Hamas, whomever are not members of the UN, so how can UN sanctions and agreements apply? Not saying I support or oppose it, but just food for thought.

**asianator365** · 06-03-09, 10:36 AM

Don't really care if it is torture or not. If it gets the durkas to talk, fine by me.

**SJA** · 06-03-09, 10:40 AM

I think Civil hit the nail on the head, the question shouldnt be what is torture, the question should be what level of torture is acceptable for us to use? Psy Ops uses the sound of children screaming, mothers wailing, etc to soften an enemy. Is that torture? Im sure at some level it is, and its used all the time. Even a vanilla interrogation can last days, sleep deprivation being the primary goal, is that torture? Again, used quite frequently, and Im sure by some definition its torture.

My opinion is that if it doesnt leave physical scars or turn them into drooling Roonts I say use it. If it saves one life, I think its worth it. Waterboarding is likely terrifying, but it doesnt do either of what I mentioned. It probably makes them terrified of any puddle of water, but I can live with that.

**jason_jinx** · 06-03-09, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Waterboarding probably is torture, and maybe even cruel and unusual, but the bigger question is are we allowed to break the rules to combat those who have no rules? Or what are the rules when fighting a cell/sect/group and not a true nation? Al Qaeda, Hamas, whomever are not members of the UN, so how can UN sanctions and agreements apply? Not saying I support or oppose it, but just food for thought.

I understand what you are saying but if you are being tortured you will say or make up anything to make it stop right?