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06-13-09, 11:33 AM #1
Obama Administration Dupes another partner
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8098341.stm
Down right shameful.
"A senior US official has told the BBC Washington decided not to tell London ahead of time about a deal to resettle four Guantanamo detainees in Bermuda."
"Now a senior US official has told the BBC it was a deliberate decision not to consult London on the resettlement, after other countries came under pressure from China not to accept the Uighurs."
Yall should read the entire report. Screwing your partners/allies over is bad bad bad.
"Beijing has demanded the return to China of all 17 Uighurs held by US forces but Washington says they could face persecution in China."
If Obama wants to set them free, let the countries that they belong to have them back to put them to trial or whatever those countries laws provide.
Personally, I think they should be tried by a military tribunal, since they are enemy combatants or POWs and if not tried by a mtc, then deported back to their country of origin.
This sneaking around and screwing our allies is BAD BUSINESS.
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06-13-09, 12:24 PM #2
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So now that Great Britain is totally screwed, what are their chances of remaining a viable country?
For those who are wondering how we screwed Great Britain, here it is...
In a highly unusual move, a senior US official said Washington opted to keep details of the deal from London until the last minute to enable Britain to deny all knowledge of the deal and thus avoid China's anger, says the BBC's Washington correspondent Kim Ghattas.
I'm still trying to figure out how we screwed Great Britain but if commander says so, it must be true.
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06-13-09, 12:54 PM #3
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Trigger, you are son UnAmerican and full of crap.That bullcrap excuse made by the democrat unamed they were quoting was covering for their ill advised move of deception and sneakiness.
You gonna quote something with the intentions of throwing off the facts of the matter this was a totally wrong thing to do to London and act as if it was a planned event is totally baseless and far out in left field.
Here is the entire Report.
BBC NEWS
US 'kept Guantanamo deal from UK'
A senior US official has told the BBC Washington decided not to tell London ahead of time about a deal to resettle four Guantanamo detainees in Bermuda.
A diplomatic row blew up over Bermuda's decision to accept the four Chinese Muslim Uighurs on a US request.
Bermuda is a British overseas territory but the US official said Washington had acted secretly to ensure success.
Meanwhile the US said on Friday three Saudis at Guantanamo Bay had been transferred back to Saudi Arabia.
The transfers are part of US President Barack Obama's strategy to close down the Guantanamo detention centre before next January.
Hostility
The unnamed senior official also told the BBC that Washington was attempting to shield the UK from Chinese anger.
Beijing has demanded the return to China of all 17 Uighurs held by US forces but Washington says they could face persecution in China.
Most of the Guantanamo detainees have not been convicted of any crime and yet the US fears they may face persecution or torture if they are repatriated. Meanwhile many Americans regard them with hostility.
It was revealed earlier in the week that the tiny Pacific island of Palau had agreed to take some of the 17 Chinese Uighurs at the camp.
But the four remaining, it later emerged, had been accepted by the Bermuda government. They arrived in Bermuda on Thursday.
Pressed on whether the US had told the British government, an unnamed state department official was quoted as saying: "We did talk to them before the Uighurs got on the plane."
“ We have underlined to the Bermuda government that it should have consulted the UK on whether this falls within their competence ”
British Foreign Office
Now a senior US official has told the BBC it was a deliberate decision not to consult London on the resettlement, after other countries came under pressure from China not to accept the Uighurs.
In a highly unusual move, a senior US official said Washington opted to keep details of the deal from London until the last minute to enable Britain to deny all knowledge of the deal and thus avoid China's anger, says the BBC's Washington correspondent Kim Ghattas.
The official said they expected London to be upset but added he felt the deal was made on solid ground, in direct talks with the Bermuda government, who accepted the men as part of guest worker programme.
Bermuda blamed
Britain, meanwhile, has expressed anger that it was not consulted, saying in a Foreign Office statement: "The Bermuda government consider this to be a matter regarding their day-to-day responsibility for immigration.
CHINA'S UIGHURS
# Ethnically Turkic Muslims, mainly in Xinjiang
# Made bid for independent state in 1940s
# Sporadic violence in Xinjiang since 1991
# Uighurs worried about Chinese immigration and erosion of traditional culture
"We have underlined to the Bermuda government that it should have consulted the UK on whether this falls within their competence or is a foreign affairs or security issue for which the Bermuda government do not have delegated responsibility."
For the time being London has reserved its expressions of ire for Bermuda, with a spokesman for the UK prime minister insisting Bermuda bore "the primary responsibility for ensuring that the constitutional requirements on the Bermudan government were adhered to".
Britain is supposed to handle Bermuda's defence, security and foreign affairs, but it delegates the authority to make decisions on immigration to Bermuda.
The Foreign Office said it would "also be looking at the operation of the 'General Entrustment' which gives Bermuda the authority to conduct certain external relations on our behalf".
Britain is also now helping Bermuda carry out a security assessment of the resettled detainees.
But the US official pointed out that the Uighurs were cleared four years ago of any wrongdoing.
On Friday, the US justice department said three Saudis - Khalid Saad Mohammed, Abdalaziz Kareem Salim al-Noofayaee and Ahmed Zaid Salim Zuhair had been approved for transfer back to Saudi Arabia.
It said they had been cleared by the previous administration and would undergo a "rehabilitation programme" in Saudi Arabia.
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06-13-09, 12:59 PM #4
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A senior US official has told the BBC Washington decided not to tell London ahead of time about a deal to resettle four Guantanamo detainees in Bermuda.
A diplomatic row blew up over Bermuda's decision to accept the four Chinese Muslim Uighurs on a US request.
London should have detained them and sent them straight back to China and then informed the Obama Administration where their POWs got transferred after forcing it down London's throat and taking a dump in their front yard.
You don't do this kind of crap to your Allies. Stupid political move.
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06-13-09, 04:22 PM #7
Re: Obama Administration Dupes another partner
Originally Posted by deathgodusmchead to head, chest to chest, which country is the very best? and in the land of rape and honey, you pray.
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06-13-09, 04:28 PM #9
Re: Obama Administration Dupes another partner
Originally Posted by deathgodusmc
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Show me the un-American negativity I always post, please.
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06-13-09, 05:08 PM #10
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The initial plan from OBama was to release these guys in Virginia. Jesus.... The idea still isn't off the table according to the article I read.
When I said I was ok with GTMO detainees coming to America, that was based on the concept they would be locked down permanently and the united states would be where they lived out their muted jihad in a sound proof supermax prison cell. Not fucking let loose into my backyard with an axe to grind with the United States.
What a fucking idiotic plan. Typically Obama is intelligent about his agenda, if misdirected on some subjects. This is just plain stupid.
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