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    I don't think I will ever buy a brand new car in my life. For some reason people are wary of used cars but you can buy used vehicles on the cheap. My truck is a 2002 Ford F-150. I bought it in 2004 with 25,000 miles on it for half of what it cost brand new. And the truck was pretty much brand new. I plan on keeping it until I at least have 200k miles on it. I'm at 125k right now and I have had no major problems with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flame
    I've got 8 years on a $2,000 truck, with repairs a $6,000 truck. It makes a big difference. Now if only I would make a car payment to my savings....
    Thats how I feel...if i had the money to save i would...

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    I chose to live life now than later. I can't stand Dave Ramsey.
    To each his own. How much debt you got?
    Plenty of debt but still a positive net worth.

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    Moderation is the key as it is with so many things. I am not suggesting that debting yourself to the point you can't afford it is smart. I just think Dave is way to extreme. If you can easily afford a new car and want one then get one. If you have $500 per month extra and its payment is going to be $480 then do not do it. Pay enough down or keep enough cash on hand to pay the depreciation. I owe less on everything I own than it is worth but still have things financed. I have no plan to have my house paid for until I am 65 and if given the cash to pay it off today I would not. I would probably buy a lake house. I plan to pay my boat off in the next 3 years and the Z car in the next 12 months. I would much rather had enjoyed them during this time than to have waited until I could have paid cash for them. Life is way too short and could end tomorrow. I am well insured to protect my wife from financial hardship should my ticket get punched. My expenses are set up on 60% of my average earnings. I keep 6 months worth of cash on hand to weather a storm and invest some money for the future. All that said, I still have debt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATEXANnHISGUN
    living for the now always bites you in the ass always unless mommy and daddy are rich.
    Always is a strong word. I also think you may have took my post the wrong way. I am not suggesting maxing yourself out is the way to go. I am just saying paying cash for everything is not for me. Trust me, I have no bail out plan. Daddys is MIA and Mommy is not rich. I do have an unfucking believable will to survive and desire be successful. I am sorry shit went down hill for you but that does not mean that it will for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckle
    Moderation is the key as it is with so many things. I am not suggesting that debting yourself to the point you can't afford it is smart. I just think Dave is way to extreme. If you can easily afford a new car and want one then get one. If you have $500 per month extra and its payment is going to be $480 then do not do it. Pay enough down or keep enough cash on hand to pay the depreciation. I owe less on everything I own than it is worth but still have things financed. I have no plan to have my house paid for until I am 65 and if given the cash to pay it off today I would not. I would probably buy a lake house. I plan to pay my boat off in the next 3 years and the Z car in the next 12 months. I would much rather had enjoyed them during this time than to have waited until I could have paid cash for them. Life is way too short and could end tomorrow. I am well insured to protect my wife from financial hardship should my ticket get punched. My expenses are set up on 60% of my average earnings. I keep 6 months worth of cash on hand to weather a storm and invest some money for the future. All that said, I still have debt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATEXANnHISGUN
    living for the now always bites you in the ass always unless mommy and daddy are rich.
    Always is a strong word. I also think you may have took my post the wrong way. I am not suggesting maxing yourself out is the way to go. I am just saying paying cash for everything is not for me. Trust me, I have no bail out plan. Daddys is MIA and Mommy is not rich. I do have an unfucking believable will to survive and desire be successful. I am sorry shit went down hill for you but that does not mean that it will for me.
    Like I said, to each his own.

    I'm not a complete Ramsey-ite but his principles are sound and you can't argue with the wisdom of not indebting yourself to anybody. The fewer people with their hands out looking at me for my paycheck every month, the better. That's where I get security in the temporal sense. I owe the bank a mortgage payment...and that's it.

    It puts me in a position to have about 70% of my monthly income working for me to ensure an early retirement and a hefty emergency fund. Nothing wrong with that at all!

    If it's working for you, that's great. More power to you, and all that jazz.

    I think my post was originally clearly pointed toward the younger folks here - fresh out of school or still in school who are about to make some life-direction-setting decisions about finances.

    I won't always have a carpayment. I refuse to pay the bank like that. To each his own though. My cars are transportation, not life affirming experiential vehicles, lol.

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    I bought a $120 bike. Financed it myself.

    His figures are a bit out of date though, pretty sure the stock-market isn't averaging 12% right now.

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    Cash is king.

    Success lies at the intersection of opportunity and preparation. If a person is in debt when an opportunity arises then they won't be able to partake.

    To each is own. Some are afraid of real success so they substitute with popular notions of success, e.g. driving a new car to a class reunion.

    I take great pride in driving ten year old cars and having grips of cash on hand. It lets me sleep better at night and gives me opportunities galore. People know that when MotoZ says he is a good buyer that he is a good buyer. No transaction hassles.

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    Also paying cash can help you get a better deal outright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckle
    Moderation is the key as it is with so many things. I am not suggesting that debting yourself to the point you can't afford it is smart. I just think Dave is way to extreme. If you can easily afford a new car and want one then get one. If you have $500 per month extra and its payment is going to be $480 then do not do it. Pay enough down or keep enough cash on hand to pay the depreciation. I owe less on everything I own than it is worth but still have things financed. I have no plan to have my house paid for until I am 65 and if given the cash to pay it off today I would not. I would probably buy a lake house. I plan to pay my boat off in the next 3 years and the Z car in the next 12 months. I would much rather had enjoyed them during this time than to have waited until I could have paid cash for them. Life is way too short and could end tomorrow. I am well insured to protect my wife from financial hardship should my ticket get punched. My expenses are set up on 60% of my average earnings. I keep 6 months worth of cash on hand to weather a storm and invest some money for the future. All that said, I still have debt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATEXANnHISGUN
    living for the now always bites you in the ass always unless mommy and daddy are rich.
    Always is a strong word. I also think you may have took my post the wrong way. I am not suggesting maxing yourself out is the way to go. I am just saying paying cash for everything is not for me. Trust me, I have no bail out plan. Daddys is MIA and Mommy is not rich. I do have an unfucking believable will to survive and desire be successful. I am sorry shit went down hill for you but that does not mean that it will for me.

    I was careful too, maybe it wont happen to you <shrug> I thought it wouldn't to me ; I watched it happen to every one else but never me, then one day it was my turn , a calamity of errors that were large enough to put me under because i was working with out a safety net.

    and i guess that was my real point , live for the day! I agree but also build a safety net for your self, so if shit does hit the fan one day your covered. but hey I'm just making a suggestion from my own personal experiences and those of people around me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tractorpull
    Also paying cash can help you get a better deal outright.
    Not true.... The dealer makes money on the financing. I have financed cars before and paid them off the next week in order to make the dealer give me a better deal on the purchase price.

    Something that concerns me however. Consultant and Moto both have made comments about people that drive new cars. Neither were directed towards me but I cant help but be clear on something. I buy new cars because I like the way they smell. There, I said it. LOL

    Seriously though, why is it that if someone wants to drive a new car that it means they are either substituting success or they are not using them for trasportation but instead life affirming experiential vehicles? I have owned 8 new cars over the years and I did not regret a single one of them. I also never felt that they made me any better, more successful or in a higher class than the guy riding beside me in his yugo. I really do not give a shit what other people drive but I like a nice comfy ride that either goes fast or has a ton of buttons to push.

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