Spending bill

**asianator365** · 07-21-09, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Muqtar SGT_Clintok

A little reading would help you see that I am not in line with the socialist agenda of the Govt being the lifelong parent for American adults.

That said, I encourage the president to advance his agenda, so that his principals can be exposed for what they are. Sitting on the sidelines, booing, hissing, and lamenting that they can do it better doesn't take any skill. So I encourage the president and his congress to ram their agenda into place, spending money that doesn't exist like drunken sailors, so that it can be judged for what it is, rather than bumper sticker marketing, like hope and change.

Muqtar, I have now made a conscious decision to take that advice.

**HuntnJade** · 07-21-09, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Muqtar SGT_Clintok

A little reading would help you see that I am not in line with the socialist agenda of the Govt being the lifelong parent for American adults.

That said, I encourage the president to advance his agenda, so that his principals can be exposed for what they are. Sitting on the sidelines, booing, hissing, and lamenting that they can do it better doesn't take any skill. So I encourage the president and his congress to ram their agenda into place, spending money that doesn't exist like drunken sailors, so that it can be judged for what it is, rather than bumper sticker marketing, like hope and change.

I have an idea where they can "ram their agenda"

Oh, and I was just being dismal not really arguing with you there. I just truly no longer believe our government in it's current operational methods can fix anything. We have stagnated the tax paying peoples choices and voices and allowed our "representatives" to do as they please. The entire working of the system has changed and been handed over to people who no longer listen nor care what we think. The only way we will ever find democracy or liberation from the current state of affairs will be to rethink and rebuild our government from the ground up. Shoving new a$$holes into previous a$$holes slots is redundant and ignorant--- remember the definition of crazy? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. And that my friends is my view on current American Government!

**triggerhappy2005** · 07-21-09, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Muqtar SGT_Clintok

Let the man fulfill his agenda, and let it be judged on its results.

Full speed ahead Mr President.

Lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc-eD...layer_embedded

**Consultant** · 07-21-09, 12:24 PM

I just saw on the news that they are cutting funding for the F-22 in the current spending bill.

**BruceBloodMaster** · 07-21-09, 12:27 PM

Full speed ahead......... right into some really rocky shoals ! I think if all this agenda goes through there is gonna be hell to pay from the People. I for one am armed and ready for Anything that comes my way just to be on the safe side and my second amendment right. Getting back to congress......... Term limits is the way to go and revocation of all the 'freebes' they get ! Like the free medical for the rest of there lives after one term and the pay for life routine not to mention the fact that they Don't pay into Socialism Security WTF ?? !! I see Elitism run amuck and its time to let them know the Gravy Train has left the station because not ONE of Them is Worth those kind of Perks ! Michael Eisner after leaving Disney as CEO didn't recieve medical for life.......... so why does Congress ?? And then the have the BALLS to talk about 'greedy ceo's and greedy Wall St guys' They only need to Look in the Mirror to see where ALL the Greed is ! MF's !

**BruceBloodMaster** · 07-21-09, 12:29 PM

So whats New Consultant..........the Dems are Famous for cutting defence spending ! Its been happening since the era of Reagan ended !

**triggerhappy2005** · 07-21-09, 12:31 PM

Bruce, I am in complete agreement about the term limits. Too much vested interest without them.

**Consultant** · 07-21-09, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by BruceBloodMaster

So whats New Consultant..........the Dems are Famous for cutting defence spending ! Its been happening since the era of Reagan ended !

I was hoping for change.

**Killing Hours** · 07-21-09, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by HuntnJade

Originally Posted by Muqtar SGT_Clintok

A little reading would help you see that I am not in line with the socialist agenda of the Govt being the lifelong parent for American adults.

That said, I encourage the president to advance his agenda, so that his principals can be exposed for what they are. Sitting on the sidelines, booing, hissing, and lamenting that they can do it better doesn't take any skill. So I encourage the president and his congress to ram their agenda into place, spending money that doesn't exist like drunken sailors, so that it can be judged for what it is, rather than bumper sticker marketing, like hope and change.

I have an idea where they can "ram their agenda"

Oh, and I was just being dismal not really arguing with you there. I just truly no longer believe our government in it's current operational methods can fix anything. We have stagnated the tax paying peoples choices and voices and allowed our "representatives" to do as they please. The entire working of the system has changed and been handed over to people who no longer listen nor care what we think. The only way we will ever find democracy or liberation from the current state of affairs will be to rethink and rebuild our government from the ground up. Shoving new a$$holes into previous a$$holes slots is redundant and ignorant--- remember the definition of crazy? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. And that my friends is my view on current American Government!

Well said Jade...agreed 1000%.

**deputyfestus** · 07-21-09, 08:14 PM

To me this is the only way forward, the politicians are only the captains of the ship. The ship is what keeps us from drowning as a whole and the ship is in dire need of a complete refit due to ______________ I'll let you fill in the blank but there's all types of barnacles and parasites leaching at the constitution of the hull creating holes and weakening the entire structure. In my mind this is the only prescription to clean and restore the hulls constitution. :8 Below is a quote I'll let Ya'll find the author on your own
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What an eventful period this is! I am thankful that I have lived to see it; and I could almost say, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, for mine eyes have seen thy salvation. I have lived to see a diffusion of knowledge, which has undermined superstition and error -- I have lived to see the rights of men better understood than ever; and nations panting for liberty, which seem to have lost the idea of it. I have lived to see 30 MILLIONS of people, indignant and resolute, spurning at slavery, and demanding liberty with an irresistible voice; their king led in triumph, and an arbitrary monarch surrendering himself to his subjects. -- After sharing in the benefits of one revolution, I have been spared to be witness to two other revolutions, both glorious. And now methinks I see the love for liberty catching and spreading, a general amendment beginning in human affairs; the dominion of kings changed for the dominion of laws, and the dominion of priests giving way to the dominion of reason and conscience.

Be encouraged, all ye friends of freedom, and writers in its defense! The times are auspicious. Your labours have not been in vain. Behold kingdoms, admonished by you, starting from sleep, breaking their fetters, and claiming justice from their oppressors! Behold, the light you have struck out, after setting America free, reflected to France, and there kindled into a blaze that lays despotism in ashes, and warms and illuminates EUROPE!

Tremble all ye oppressors of the world! Take warning all ye supporters of slavish governments. . . . Call no more reformation, innovation. You cannot hold the world in darkness. Struggle no longer against increasing light and liberality. Restore to mankind their rights; and consent to the correction of abuses, before they and you are destroyed together. :9