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**Consultant** · 09-14-09, 05:37 PM

The Republicans are no more a "monolithic block of thought" than the democrats are, you boob.

How many of your friends are republicans? How many republicans have you sat down and interviewed?

Where do you get your news? You are reading out of Hawgballs play book and it is no more effective when you spit it.

**Red_Lizard2** · 09-14-09, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Consultant

The Republicans are no more a "monolithic block of thought" than the democrats are, you boob.

How many of your friends are republicans? How many republicans have you sat down and interviewed?

Where do you get your news? You are reading out of Hawgballs play book and it is no more effective when you spit it.

no i find it funny he seems to only mention democrats are attacking, despite the republicans have been doing as well. And you have people walking around carrying signs saying calling people fascists, mainly because they don't agree with them.

No different then someone walking around with Bush is a Terrorist signs because they don't like Bush.

You could also go back a page and read my whole rant on my feelings on both sides and how they have been acting lately and in the past.

**Thorsen** · 09-14-09, 06:25 PM

People will be people eh?

**~~hawgballs~~** · 09-14-09, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Consultant

The Republicans are no more a "monolithic block of thought" than the democrats are, you boob.

How many of your friends are republicans? How many republicans have you sat down and interviewed?

Where do you get your news? You are reading out of Hawgballs play book and it is no more effective when you spit it.

Fove, Consultant lived the past decade with his eyes closed apparently..... My playbook of stating facts doesn't work so well with those that refuse to let facts get in the way of their opinion. He somehow forgets about the party of Terri Schiavo intervention, Tom Delay and Bill "Nuclear Option" Frist.

**Consultant** · 09-14-09, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Originally Posted by Consultant

The Republicans are no more a "monolithic block of thought" than the democrats are, you boob.

How many of your friends are republicans? How many republicans have you sat down and interviewed?

Where do you get your news? You are reading out of Hawgballs play book and it is no more effective when you spit it.

Fove, Consultant lived the past decade with his eyes closed apparently..... My playbook of stating facts doesn't work so well with those that refuse to let facts get in the way of their opinion. He somehow forgets about the party of Terri Schiavo intervention, Tom Delay and Bill "Nuclear Option" Frist.

that's nucular, to you.

**Consultant** · 09-14-09, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Originally Posted by Consultant

The Republicans are no more a "monolithic block of thought" than the democrats are, you boob.

How many of your friends are republicans? How many republicans have you sat down and interviewed?

Where do you get your news? You are reading out of Hawgballs play book and it is no more effective when you spit it.

Fove, Consultant lived the past decade with his eyes closed apparently..... My playbook of stating facts doesn't work so well with those that refuse to let facts get in the way of their opinion. He somehow forgets about the party of Terri Schiavo intervention, Tom Delay and Bill "Nuclear Option" Frist.

So we're clear - you also think that all republicans represent a "monolithic block of thought"?

I just want to know for sure whether or not I can completely ignore everything you post for the rest of my life or whether you recognize that there IS, in fact, a diversity of opinion on the more conservative side of the aisle.

**Phaedro** · 09-15-09, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Consultant

So we're clear - you also think that all republicans represent a "monolithic block of thought"?

I just want to know for sure whether or not I can completely ignore everything you post for the rest of my life or whether you recognize that there IS, in fact, a diversity of opinion on the more conservative side of the aisle.

Ya know, you should really stop trying to paint people into corners like that. It wasn't his point, and you know it. You also know that the Republicans tend to vote in a more unified fashion and break ranks less often than the Democrats. This has been the case for many many years.

**Consultant** · 09-15-09, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Phaedro

Originally Posted by Consultant

So we're clear - you also think that all republicans represent a "monolithic block of thought"?

I just want to know for sure whether or not I can completely ignore everything you post for the rest of my life or whether you recognize that there IS, in fact, a diversity of opinion on the more conservative side of the aisle.

Ya know, you should really stop trying to paint people into corners like that. It wasn't his point, and you know it. You also know that the Republicans tend to vote in a more unified fashion and break ranks less often than the Democrats. This has been the case for many many years.

haha, no - I wouldnt put it past Hawg to purport a position such as that! I wasnt painting anybody into any corner - the man doesnt care about getting paint on his boots - he'll walk right through it!

I'm not exactly bullying a 10 year old here...but I'm sure he appreciates the defense you are offering.

**Fovezer** · 09-15-09, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by [SWC

Erik Thorsen ]Fovezer can you get me a link to a page or article documenting the health care industry's involvement in funding these protests? Thanks.

There are examples of them funding and sending or encouraging employees to go oppose reform at town halls.

FreedomWorks is founded by Dick Armey, former Republican member of Congress who quit to join a health industry lobbying group. Before becoming FreedomWorks, it was known as Citizens for a Sound Economy. They promoted deregulation and tax cuts for corporations, and were funded entirely by corporations and wealthy individuals. They are funded by groups such as MetLife, Philip Morris, and the Scaife family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomWorks#Funding

Conservatives for Patients' Rights is a group founded by Rick Scott. He is a former board member of Columbia HCA, one of the largest health care providers in the US. He was also behind one of the biggest frauds on Medicare and Medicaid, and the company had to pay $1.7 billion dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conserv...ents%27_Rights

"The health-insurance industry is sending thousands of its employees to town-hall meetings and other forums during Congress's August recess to try to counter a tide of criticism directed at the insurers and remain a player -- and not an outsider -- in the debate over the future of the health-care system."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125107323271252625.html

"Last week, UnitedHealth Group--the second largest health insurance company in the country--sent out a letter to its employees urging them to call UHG's United for Health Reform Advocacy Hotline to speak with an advocacy specialist about health care reform. The advocacy specialist, according to the letter, is there to help UHG employees write personalized messages to elected officials, and to arm them with talking points to use at local events in order to better oppose the public health insurance option."
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...ea-parties.php

More:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/27/...-publicoption/

We see the same crap being pulled by Big Oil against climate change legislation. And we saw the same nonsense in 1993 with the Coalition for Health Insurance Choices, which was a group against the Clinton plan. They were funded by the National Federation of Independent Businesses and Health Insurance Association of America. Both are insurance industry groups.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...urance_Choices

The saddest part is people buy into this crap and will actually vote against their best interests because the corporations told them to.

Originally Posted by Consultant

The Republicans are no more a "monolithic block of thought" than the democrats are, you boob.

How many of your friends are republicans? How many republicans have you sat down and interviewed?

Where do you get your news? You are reading out of Hawgballs play book and it is no more effective when you spit it.

All you have to do is look at recent roll call votes. The Republicans vote in party line far more often than Democrats do.

**Silent_Crow** · 09-15-09, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Fovezer

Originally Posted by dex71

Bullshit. In fact.....laughable. Maybe I should pull some pics of the "mainstreamers" that were protesting the Republican Convention.

What I said was, as this was a much smaller rally, it has a far higher nut-to-sane person ratio.

Im just curious how you know this. Did you do a headcount of the people there and ask them if they are crazy or not? then do the same at any liberal based rally? Then compare?