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Huh? Wars wouldn't exist if everyone believed that torture is wrong?

I give up......... Okay, toture is wrong and illegal. You got me, we'll just leave the "wrong" part for those with critical minds.

BTW, you haven't stated any facts you repeatedly asked silly questions and made similar statements............ But to sum up your posts, .............. you have no opinion on torture, and have no examples of "good and moral" torture. Can you at least point out as to where torture is accepted as morally right? (Not where they torture, but where they believe that it is morally correct.)

So the reason for you posting such silly questions, was only to point out that somewhere, someone thinks that "inflicting pain, anguish and agony" is morally right? Not that you agree with them, of course. So did you post the question, just to see yourself post the question?

Originally Posted by jmw_man

The law can only deem it illegal. It is morally wrong/right only in opinion.

No, there are right things and wrong things, regardless of peoples' opinions. There may not be many universal moral laws, but on a case by case basis there is almost always a right and wrong ethical perspective.

Originally Posted by hawgballs

ok?

Whatever bro, it is illegal, and wrong (apparently to those with working brains).

Give me an example of "good and moral torture"......... in your "opinion" of course.

But this is just me trolling. Right god? Defining torture as wrong and illegal, equates to trolling.......? meh......

We'll once again me and hawg don't see eye to eye. Theres a shocker. I already know the definition of torture in fact i gave to you what a year ago maybe a year and a half.

Yes you were trolling that was the point of your second post. If it wasn't then the first time would of been suffeciant but you didnt get a responce so you did it again.

I'll give you an example of good torture.

I see some guy raping a 11 year old female. Do i call the cops? Of course i do but it wont be until i've modified his exsistance. By the time they get there he'll want them to show up. Thats my example of good torture. If you want another by all means ask for it.

No, don't need another example. Trying to read your posts would be torture enough, if I didn't laugh so hard at your silly examples......

Originally Posted by hawgballs

No, don't need another example. Trying to read your posts would be torture enough, if I didn't laugh so hard at your silly examples......

Thats what i figured. All talk. You wanted an example so i gave you one. Now you can't dispute it so you go to your fall back of how someone else is the idiot/silly/simple/stupid/take your pick of what you've called people.

Let me ask you a question Hawg.

If one person always has issues with multiple people do you really think it's everyone else or would it be more likely that the one person is the one with the issue?

Morals are personal strickly a persons interpretation of what is right or wrong.

I see some guy raping a 11 year old female. Do i call the cops? Of course i do but it wont be until i've modified his exsistance. By the time they get there he'll want them to show up. Thats my example of good torture. If you want another by all means ask for it.

Where is the torture? All I read in your scenario, is that you witness a crime, call the cops and then one of two things happen in your scenario......... You either beat him up or he beats you up. There is no example of "torture" in there. Nice try though...... I knew you would find some way of fucking your own example up.

You getting your ass beat by a rapist, isn't torture, it's funny, but it isn't torture.

So I state again, torture is wrong and illegal.

But let's take your silly scenario one step further. Assuming you don't get beat up by the rapist, you tie him up and are in the middle of taking the guys' fingernails off and the cops pull up. You don't think you will be charged?



As far as your question is concerned, pertaining to "issues with multiple people".... WUT?

Originally Posted by hawgballs

I see some guy raping a 11 year old female. Do i call the cops? Of course i do but it wont be until i've modified his exsistance. By the time they get there he'll want them to show up. Thats my example of good torture. If you want another by all means ask for it.

Where is the torture? All I read in your scenario, is that you witness a crime, call the cops and then one of two things happen in your scenario......... You either beat him up or he beats you up. There is no example of "torture" in there. Nice try though...... I knew you would find some way of fucking your own example up.

You getting your ass beat by a rapist, isn't torture, it's funny, but it isn't torture.

So I state again, torture is wrong and illegal.

But let's take your silly scenario one step further. Assuming you don't get beat up by the rapist, you tie him up and are in the middle of taking the guys' fingernails off and the cops pull up. You don't think you will be charged?



As far as your question is concerned, pertaining to "issues with multiple people".... WUT?

Well hawg let me put it to you this way as basic as i can so you understand. If this were to happen.
1 I haven't lost a fight yet so i'm not to concerned about it much less if the situation arises.
2 He's going to be missing a lot more than finger nails.
3 The phone call won't happen until i'm ready to make it.
4 I don't give a flying fucking shit about the charges they decide to press on me for how I intervened.

I left out details for the purpose of people to fill in the blanks as they saw fit. Still you try to justify your aurguement with it's illegal and wrong. Do you have any input that is worth anything or is it just the fall back "torture is wrong and illegal"?

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Well hawg let me put it to you this way as basic as i can so you understand. If this were to happen.
1 I haven't lost a fight yet so i'm not to concerned about it much less if the situation arises.
2 He's going to be missing a lot more than finger nails.
3 The phone call won't happen until i'm ready to make it.
4 I don't give a flying fucking shit about the charges they decide to press on me for how I intervened.

Ok tough guy.

MaBell, is that you?

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I left out details for the purpose of people to fill in the blanks as they saw fit. Still you try to justify your aurguement with it's illegal and wrong. Do you have any input that is worth anything or is it just the fall back "torture is wrong and illegal"?

What I have said is justification enough. You have yet to disprove that "torture is wrong and illegal". Your tough guy "I haven't lost a fight yet" scenario doesn't even begin to support anything you say. In fact, it makes you look like a even bigger douche than ever. So I recommend you put your "air lats" away, and go try and impress some much younger and much more gullible with your jibber jabber what makes talkie noises...... Because it is only lampooning material in my eyes.