Troops to be Compensated for 'Stop Loss'

**Thorsen** · 11-05-09, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by CallousDisregard

But weren't you one of the people that argued the police, fire dept and military are all socialist, so wouldn't that make paying them, for any reason, part of a "welfare" program ?

How about this ?
The Congress, who works so hard for us not reading bills and all, gives up their next raise, hell gives back their last raise and gives the money to the troops in theater, regardless of their enlistment status.
Maybe we could cut a few dollars out of TARP for them too, since we haven't spent all that money.
Hell, there is still a lot of stimulus money left, give all of that to troops too.
They will spend it and stimulate the economy and at the same time we all feel that the money is going to somebody who deserves it.

I am assuming you're talking to me about the police, fire department and other services being socialist comment. I wasn't saying that (Although it is true, it doesn't necessarily make it bad), I was arguing in that thread that I don't consider it a right to have these services, because they are a service and must be paid for.

And to Hawg, guilty as charged man. You're right on with your correction. Seems this thread is destined for derailment. :9

**Consultant** · 11-05-09, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Nah. Neither. I say we just take it away from the crooks that profit so much from war like KBR and Halliburton. And while we're at it, how about taking the money away from the other clowns that profit from wrapping themselves in the flag, Faux News, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly and Murdoch........... You know, the guys you quote verbatim from constantly. So what do you think? Your choice, real patriots or conniving pieces of shit?

Then I say we also take the money away from the first ammendment profiteers like PMSNBC and Rugchew Maddow and her boy-toy Keith Overbite.

You know, the guys you quote verbatim from constantly. So what do YOU think? Your choice, your conniving pieces of shit or another group of conniving pieces of shit?

**Mudstalker** · 11-06-09, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by CallousDisregard

Hell, there is still a lot of stimulus money left, give all of that to troops too.
They will spend it and stimulate the economy and at the same time we all feel that the money is going to somebody who deserves it.

A large majority of service men save their money. And I mean SAVE it, as in throw it in your savings account and throw away the key. The only thing we would use that money for is more beer. Which I guess can't be too bad an industry to support

Originally Posted by CallousDisregard

Anecdotal evidence but most of the married guys I knew back in the late 80's had second jobs to supplement Army pay so it must be even worse today.

Second jobs to supplement Army pay? Do you mean AFTER they retire? Cause while you're in the Army gives you a VERY nice bag of cash to support your family, hell they'll even pay to send your spouse to college. After 13 hours of duties and all that I don't think I could imagine a guy wanting to go get a job rather than spend more time with his family before he deploys

**CallousDisregard** · 11-06-09, 06:13 AM

My experience was in 87-90 and it was 2 guys I knew but there were others, again purely anecdotal.

I would gladly give the salaries of Fox News to the troops.
But they are a private company that doesn't depend on tax money unlike say ..Charlie Rangel.

But if we pulled all the troops back and cut the military in half, we could afford to pay them double then couldn't we ?

I mean with amazing success of soft diplomacy we hardly even need a military at all.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 11-06-09, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Consultant

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Nah. Neither. I say we just take it away from the crooks that profit so much from war like KBR and Halliburton. And while we're at it, how about taking the money away from the other clowns that profit from wrapping themselves in the flag, Faux News, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly and Murdoch........... You know, the guys you quote verbatim from constantly. So what do you think? Your choice, real patriots or conniving pieces of shit?

Then I say we also take the money away from the first ammendment profiteers like PMSNBC and Rugchew Maddow and her boy-toy Keith Overbite.

You know, the guys you quote verbatim from constantly. So what do YOU think? Your choice, your conniving pieces of shit or another group of conniving pieces of shit?

Funny thing is......... I don't watch them...... Nice try though.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 11-06-09, 12:06 PM

What's even funnier, is that you got so offended that I mention connivers that you tried to pin me with Maddow and Olberman......... Did I strike a nerve, Deacon? Rugchew? alluding to someone's unchristianlike gayness? LOL @ you.

**JBMCW2010** · 11-06-09, 12:18 PM

I just want to clear up that Welfare is not only for those who are too lazy to support themselves, it is actually unfortunate that people take advantage of the system. But my family was on welfare because my father passed away when I was really young. My mother had a full time job (public school teacher) and at times during the holidays a part time job when the big stores were hiring seasonal help. We barely kept afloat. Welfare helped her make ends meet even when I was working 20-30 hours a week through high school to help out.

So yes people abuse it but it is meant for good hardworking people too, when they are down on their luck.