Making a soldier. [PICS]

**Highstakes72** · 11-11-09, 01:41 PM

I was in Infantry school @ Benning from 1/20/04 -5/5ish/04.

Combat Arms MOSs (Benning,Knox etc.) have much different basic training then soft skills do in the Army.(the training Blakeman saw) Yeah you get a phone call at reception (at some point) then one sometime within about three weeks onmoving from reception to your training BN. All other calls are either group or individual merit based usually.

as far as drugs in the military...I watched an E5 piss hot and still got promoted to E6....So I would say it depends on your unit and who is watching the watchers....of course an E3 might not get that benefit.

**Consultant** · 11-11-09, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Highstakes72

piss hot

Antibiotics will clear that up.

**Blakeman** · 11-11-09, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Consultant

Originally Posted by Highstakes72

piss hot

Antibiotics will clear that up.

Antibiotics don't neutralize habenero.

**Blakeman** · 11-11-09, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Highstakes72

I was in Infantry school @ Benning from 1/20/04 -5/5ish/04.

Combat Arms MOSs (Benning,Knox etc.) have much different basic training then soft skills do in the Army.(the training Blakeman saw) Yeah you get a phone call at reception (at some point) then one sometime within about three weeks onmoving from reception to your training BN. All other calls are either group or individual merit based usually.

as far as drugs in the military...I watched an E5 piss hot and still got promoted to E6....So I would say it depends on your unit and who is watching the watchers....of course an E3 might not get that benefit.

Again that is a difference between services, in the USMC it doesn't matter the MOS we all got treated the same in boot camp which was damn tough with absolutely no privacy or individualism of any type.

**ems_goof** · 11-11-09, 03:39 PM

Well, with the Marine Corps theory of "Marine First, Specialty Second", as compared to the other services theory of specialty first, that's understandable.
The Marine Corps can afford to do that since all of their non-combat specialists (religion, medical) come from the Navy. Everyone fights, so everyone can go through the same basic.

**Muqtar SGT_Clintok** · 11-11-09, 08:31 PM

Basic rifleman first is the credo.

I was infantry so the credo didn't apply.

**Frogbones** · 11-11-09, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by ALPINESTAR

ya.... shits a lil different in the Marines..

jeeze looking at all those pictures in iraq.. those are just fuckin kids in uniforms..

The soldiers that stormed Normandy were just fuckin kids in uniforms also. We also drafted just fuckin kids in Vietnam too.

Good stuff on that link.

I had a buddy that went to Iraq...got killed the second week he was there....I miss him

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**Blakeman** · 11-11-09, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by ems_goof

Well, with the Marine Corps theory of "Marine First, Specialty Second", as compared to the other services theory of specialty first, that's understandable.
The Marine Corps can afford to do that since all of their non-combat specialists (religion, medical) come from the Navy. Everyone fights, so everyone can go through the same basic.

There are 'non combat' MOS in the USMC. The religion and medical part is just useful since it would be kinda dumb to double up on that when the the USMC is still under the dept of the Navy and the Navy has those things as well.

An aircraft mechanic in the USMC is still a basic trained infantryman, even though he will most likely not practice it as much as the true infantry MOS and are considered 'non combat'. All the enlisted still have to qualify on the same rifle range each year and everyone has a rifle in the armory. It is the 'all a rifleman' more than specialty second.

When I went through boot, we all did the same thing then any MOS that wasn't infantry based went to a toned down infantry school whereas the 'true infantry' went to their normal infantry training. After that we all went to our normal schools and I got sent to Fort Lost-in-the-woods...

The real reason the USMC can afford to do that is that they are a smaller service with a dedicated task, amphibious spearheads. Everything in the USMC revolves around getting from ship to shore, then punching as far inland as possible while overwhelming the enemy and driving them back from 'our beach'. Everyone in the USMC has to be able to swim, everyone has to be able to take up the rifle and lay down lead, everyone has to know the history of the Marines. It is what sets the USMC apart and why most folks agree that they get the job done when the job is destroying the enemy.

Enough motovation tonight, way off topic and it is late for me.

Still seems like a fairly easy boot camp...

**~~hawgballs~~** · 11-12-09, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Muqtar SGT_Clintok

Basic rifleman first is the credo.

I was infantry so the credo didn't apply.

WERD!!!! :9

**~~hawgballs~~** · 11-12-09, 12:58 AM

I got caught making a UA phone call in Boot. It was during the range. On a Sunday in 94, and believe it or not, I was the platoon catholic lay reader(because I was raised catholic, and graduated from a catholic school), one of our guys was given a chit by the Chaplain for a phone call for some reason or other, and I was to be his shadow. Well when this kid gets on the phone to make a call, I commenced to make a collect call on an adjoining pay-phone. Some DI walks up and checks the kid's chit, he whips it out and I felt relief that he might assume I had one as well. Not so, and needless to say that when I failed to provide a chit for myself, I filled about forty tiles on that quarter deck with an ever flowing source of sweat. I mean I got worked for about 4 hours..... And got smoked/thrashed just about everyday since then, almost to a point to where it was somewhat of a joke.... So after saying that, that was the only mission that I ever was compromised.