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11-23-09, 11:13 PM #1
Students may not be allowed to graduate
Students may not be allowed to graduate because they're obese.
Inside Higher Ed reports that "More than two dozen seniors at Lincoln University, in Oxford, Pa., are in danger of not being able to graduate this spring -- not because they're under disciplinary probation or haven't fulfilled the requirements of their majors, but because they were obese as freshmen."
That's right: the historically Black College has a new requirement for graduation. Students must either have a BMI below 30 (a BMI of 30 or higher is considered obese) or complete a one-semester "Fitness For Life" class.
Some 19% of 2006's freshman class had BMIs over 30, but most of those students either lost some weight or took the class. However there are still about 25 students left -- out of a class of 484 -- who have neither lost weight nor taken the class.
Students and some well-meaning educational experts are questioning the wisdom of the policy, but it really makes perfect sense. Colleges have a responsibility to prepare their students to be productive members of society, and to help them gain the skills and attributes that will help them succeed in the workplace.
Guess what? Fat people earn less money and are likely to be discriminated against during the hiring process. In that regard, requiring students who are overweight to learn about healthy eating and exercise is every bit as legitimate as requiring students to take a class on resume writing -- even if it's less politically correct.
The Associated Press reports that the school is catching some flack from students and educational experts, but I say, carry on Lincoln University. Congratulations on taking an unpopular but principled stance that reflects a commitment to the well-being of your students.
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Found this one and i'm not quite sure which way i lean. On one hand it does help them but on the other is it really the right way to handle it. I do find the part about them being able to take another class and graduate more of a money thing than anything else.
I guess i would have to lean to the side of it really is none of there business what a person weighs. Even if the case may be about the school actually caring. If that is really is what the school is after and not the funds for another course. I guess i could be persuaded if the additional course was free of charge.
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11-24-09, 12:38 AM #2
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BMI isn't the best way to measure obesity - I know a few people who may be considered "obese" but are built like brick walls with and inhumanly high amount of muscle mass.
On the ruling - it can be seen both as helping them later in life or interfering on their personal freedoms. Honestly I think making them take one class wont change anything, the spirit may be fine but the implementation is ridiculous.
Brings up another question: is obesity something that should be controlled considering it is extremely harmful to obese people? Or should it be up to personal decision.
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11-24-09, 01:49 AM #3
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Refuse to allow obese people to graduate, and receive their diploma because they'll be discriminated upon in the future in work places. Isn't refusing to grant them their diploma based on their weight discrimination on its own?
They create discrimination, in order to prevent future incidents? Or is this not discrimination because they have a 'justified' message?
Regardless of the case, its utter bullshit. Its not their jobs to tell people how to live their lives, or dictate what sort of physical appearance, or health they should strive to achieve. The choice belongs to nobody but the person in question.
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11-24-09, 02:11 AM #5
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Originally Posted by Too Much Damage
Actors and Models, again they make the choice because its part of the job. Actors need to look a certain way to adequately fit into a roll, models need to be pencil thin and or muscled in order to qualify as a "Hottie" or "Stud" or whatever variant you want to call them.
I reiterate, its the choice of the person in question, not those who hold the piece of paper verifying that they've busted their ass to earn that diploma.
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11-24-09, 05:27 AM #7
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When I was in school you could count the number of kids who were obese on one hand and that was out of hundreds of students. These were children who had a serious medical issue. Nowadays it seems like you can count the number of children who are in shape on one hand. This country is way too fat and something drastic needs to be done about it.
I caught a lot of shit when I remarked that TTP could cover the cost of next years stand at Quakecon if they opened a Jenny Craig booth as well. Just peruse through the Quakecon photos and check out the fattie to people in shape ratio. It's fucking sad...really.
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11-24-09, 08:21 AM #10
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I think its tight they are the first to do this. Wait in the coming years.. The fatties are gonna be told they cant do lost of things.. why? Cuz they're fatties.
Ima get paid mmmhm[quote author=...bigdog... link=topic=81507.msg1197022#msg1197022 date=1268327193]
so tragic....
digital......buy BC2, and stop playing WoW.
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