Thread: Charges brought on Navy Seal Commandos

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

#2, You say they were all dead, but you don't know that. All you have to go on is here say and I don't know for sure they were dead, so you make another insinuation.

So you automatically assume that they were dragged alive? How do you know? I assume that they were dead before being dragged, because that is how they were reported to be. I didn't reaqqd anything about those mercs actually being alive, I did read in many that their "CORPSES" were strung up, or dragged, which make me conclude that they were dead.

As for your #'s 1 and 3, Soy addressed that for me.

And you don't need to add the moniker "commando" to the title of Navy SEaL, it isn't nee3ded and only goes to reflect noobness, regarding your mil experience.

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

#1, I never pointed my finger at anyone, nor did I ever state who was responsible for bringing unwarranted charges to those Seals..... Somebody has insinuated that I did, I never did.

So why the 'which side is Obama on alert' statement?

Apparently not to insinuate blame.........

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

Yea, having one little tiny busted lip during the whole time that he got picked up to when he was transferred to the green zone, yea, that is torture huh?

Ridiculous....

Who exactly are you angry with?

What a dumb question.... Do I really have to answer that? Are you serious?

Answer would be, whoever the dum dum was that wanted to press charges on our heros, for busted lip, for who knows how it happened ? He didn't get broke ribs, smashed face, broke arms/legs or toes and fingers...... How stupid can these idiots actually be?

This is the guy that ordered his terrorist group to drag live people through the streets, burn and mutilate them, and then hung their dead bodies up so the media could photograph them..... And you ask such a stupid question.... ?

Those Navy Seal Commandos apprehended him and provided him in good health to the green zone.....

I don't see it as a dumb question. You seem to be blaming someone who hasn't anything to do with this. So I think a little clarification was/is needed as to who you are so angry with.

You do realize that it isn't some govt bureaucrat or politician that brought up these charges. It is the military that is trying these guys, Commisioned Officers. If you know anything about UCMJ, then you would understand that when the article reads that these guys have requested mast, it means they have gone through their chains of command, and apparently the CoC beleieve that a court martial is warranted.

I fail to see an attribution to "Which Side Is Obama On Alert". Unless you are privvy to more information than the military, who are you to be mad at anyone? Maybe they ought to hire you as a lawyer...... That way you can teach the JAG Corps a lesson or two, because they are obviously woefully inadequate.

BTW, not that it makes things any better, but those guys that were dragged through the street(you know the mercenaries from Blackwater?) they were dead already, they weren't dragged through the streets alive, good try at exaggerating the scenario though. Forgive me if I haven't got a soft spot for overpaid, triggerhappy mercenaries.

Not to pick any bones or anything but the likely hood of this courtmartial coming from any where near their command is pretty unlikely. Those bureaucrats and politicians have been known to push the issue to meet their agenda's.

As for the JAG corps seeing as i've been in a JAG investigation (obviously i did not meet everyone in JAG just to avoid that arguement) your making some assumptions that you couldn't possibly know about. 90% of JAG corps is made out of kids fresh from law school paid for by the government waiting for the end of their contract. So yeah it doesn't take much for someone to be able to teach them something. It isn't like JAG on tv.

Not to pick side but the SEALs are a commando unit but it normally isn't refered to as SEAL commandos. So he is right technically but it's just not something that is said.

Originally Posted by SoySoldier

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

#1, I never pointed my finger at anyone, nor did I ever state who was responsible for bringing unwarranted charges to those Seals..... Somebody has insinuated that I did, I never did.

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

...Yet another Which Side Is Obama On Alert...

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

#3, I have great respect for any soldier that puts their life on the line and makes big sacrifices to serve our country and the best interest of others, regardless of what branch of contract service or military they are in. You say they were overpaid, how can you put a price on the ultimate sacrifice that was made.....? No amount of money is worth that, but freedom is.

Dude, they are not soldiers they are mercenaries. They are fighting for a paycheck, not our freedom. If they had honor, they would be soldiers in our military, take a normal payrate, and be subject to the UCMJ. But they want the big bucks and reduced responsibility. The spectacle made of those corpses was disgusting but do not confuse money-grubbin' mercenaries with our fighting forces. I am ashamed we have even hired mercenaries.

Your opinion on them is very narrow.... Most of them were enlisted at one time. Many of them due to an injury, or didn't want to sign up for another 4 years or whatever reason.

You also gotta understand, that the if you have any physical problems, such as an injury that occurred in an accident or whatever, or maybe your hearing is 2 decibels off, the Military won't take you and put you on the VA benefits.

So how much are VA benefits for life worth, maybe in lieu of the additional money that a security agent makes, versus the retirement and va benefits that an enlisted soldier gets?

Many many reasons for serving as a military contractor....

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Not to pick any bones or anything(but you are) but the likely hood of this courtmartial coming from any where near their command is pretty unlikely. Those bureaucrats and politicians have been known to push the issue to meet their agenda's.

They requested mast, which means their CoC knows full well of the charges, and handled them accordingly. But please do tell where these charges of dereliction of duties are coming from, if not their chains of command. Unless you can come up with proof that there are bureaucrats pushing this issue, then it cna only point to their CoC.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

As for the JAG corps seeing as i've been in a JAG investigation (obviously i did not meet everyone in JAG just to avoid that arguement) your making some assumptions that you couldn't possibly know about. 90% of JAG corps is made out of kids fresh from law school paid for by the government waiting for the end of their contract. So yeah it doesn't take much for someone to be able to teach them something. It isn't like JAG on tv.

What type of assumptions am I making? I am not the one assuming that those involved are "kids fresh from law school paid for by the government waiting for the end of their contract", I am betting that the JAG Corps is made up of more than just butterbar boot louies (Somebody should have clued that Major that prosecuted my old roommate for 'contract marriage' that he was too high ranking and should have gotten out when his contract ended...... I mean come on doesn't he watch TV). I would assume that when charges like these are brought up, there are field grade officers involved, that aren't waiting for the end of their contract. But again, I am the one making the assumptions that I can't know anything about.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Not to pick side but the SEALs are a commando unit but it normally isn't refered to as SEAL commandos. So he is right technically but it's just not something that is said.

No, not picking bones or anything.......................... Nobody said that he was "technically wrong", just that he sounds like a noob by adding the moniker "commando" as if these guys were any different than any other SEaL team members.