Thread: Oldest Death Row inmate dies....

Originally Posted by Nuckle

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by bust331

LOL I'm sure the cops sent there to "guard him" would of been appreciative.

Dont be scared. It all a matter of perception. Were they there guarding him or were they guard everyone else from him or were they just making sure he didn't make a get away on his walker?

I can see the headlines now.

80 year old convict exscapes hospital in a wheel chair only to get hit by an ambulance in front of the hospital.

..... and he would have sued the state for millions.

LOL come on hes an 80 year old man hit by a 10000 lbs van. He's dead unless hes got my luck. Then hes never going to die just keep getting maimed.

Originally Posted by Nuckle

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Originally Posted by Nuckle

Originally Posted by Anti-Squeaker

Good point. But it's still a common decency thing. Like for the firing squad, you get a last smoke and a blindfold. I agree they don't necessarily deserve it, but we're the good guys. Surely one good meal before they kick the bucket isn't too much to ask.

As a compromise I can go along with the last meal and all. Hell, if it makes people feel better then I say give them a hooker and let them smoke their drug of choice. Anything is better than paying for them to live for 15 years when they have blown their chances on living among the good.

How many death row inmates have been proven innocent years later?

Curious to know how many innocent men your ideal would've killed, or is money more important?

I would bet the number of people that got off free far exceed the number that were executed wrongly by a huge multiplier. Back to your question.... 2? maybe 3? I certainly hate it for those few but shit happens. Oh and you are damn straight that it is about the money. I am sick and fucking tired of paying the way for so many. I am also sick of being quiet about it.

Try 139 death row inmates exonerated in 26 states since 1973. Without that '15 years' virtually all of these individuals would be dead.

139 people completely innocent of any wrongdoing in the eyes of the court... There are yet more who are released from prison due to strong evidence of innocence though not fully exonerated, and another group who have had their sentences commuted for 'possible' innocence.

That's not to mention some strong evidence supporting innocence that's cropped up for many DR inmates who were already executed, but sadly, that gets nowhere past journalism, as the courts have no interest in hearing an appeal on behalf of a dead man, and attourneys obviously want to move on to living clients..

Links to the facts please.

Not about the money any more, or are you just curious? I think it works out to 1 for every 8 executed from what I've read.


This one has decent info on most cases,
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/inno...-death-penalty

http://www.witnesstoinnocence.org/learn.php

http://www.nyadp.org/main/nyfaq.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...#United_States

I'll find more, but CNN, FOX, and shit don't seem to tally these numbers often.

*****EDIT*****

http://www.abanet.org/moratorium/home.html

here's a great link page if you really want 1000 or so sites... They are categorised for your convenience, though.

http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/...dplinks.htm#ng

If one innocent person is put to death, everyone who advocates the death penalty has blood on their hands. Can you live with being a murderer by proxy? Flame is exactly right, the practice is barbaric. Nobody with half decent morals gives two shits about you crying over taxes or eye for an eye "justice" when it comes to this. How easy some people make the innocents killed by the system they advocate into statistics- out of sight, out of mind. You just said it's ok to kill someone's son, daughter, mother, father, and they didn't do anything to deserve it, all so you can get sweet revenge on more assholes and not pay a fraction of your precious, precious money for what is right. That's a damn shame. :3

Originally Posted by flame

As far as the money is concerned, we don't save much by killing people. The legal costs are very high. The actual cost of the injection is only $90. We pay for the attorneys, the judges, jurors, transportation to court, etc. A life sentence even if it lasts 50 years probably wont cost as much as the financial burden the appeals place on our judicial system. Been a long time, I would have to go back and research the numbers.

I hate that Texas boasts the most executions each year. I love Texas but that fact is not something I like the state of Texas being known for.

Texas is below the national average in terms of death penalties per capital conviction.

In terms of cost, here's some info, and yet more links to reports to be found,
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Not about the money any more, or are you just curious? I think it works out to 1 for every 8 executed from what I've read.


This one has decent info on most cases,
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/inno...-death-penalty

http://www.witnesstoinnocence.org/learn.php

http://www.nyadp.org/main/nyfaq.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...#United_States

I'll find more, but CNN, FOX, and shit don't seem to tally these numbers often.

*****EDIT*****

http://www.abanet.org/moratorium/home.html

here's a great link page if you really want 1000 or so sites... They are categorised for your convenience, though.

http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/...dplinks.htm#ng

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Not about the money any more, or are you just curious? I think it works out to 1 for every 8 executed from what I've read.


This one has decent info on most cases,
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/inno...-death-penalty

http://www.witnesstoinnocence.org/learn.php

http://www.nyadp.org/main/nyfaq.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...#United_States

I'll find more, but CNN, FOX, and shit don't seem to tally these numbers often.

*****EDIT*****

http://www.abanet.org/moratorium/home.html

here's a great link page if you really want 1000 or so sites... They are categorised for your convenience, though.

http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/...dplinks.htm#ng

Just curious....

I also did not say that I do not believe in any appeal process. I just do not feel it should get drawn out as long as it does in many cases. It would also be interesting to truly know how many of the 139 were guilty as shit but were able to get off on technicalities.