Thread: Oldest Death Row inmate dies....

133, and 139 are based on the timeframes I noted if you'd care to read the difference between them.

OK deathgod... I see you adding up every last inmate dead or alive. While courts have obviously found men on DR guilty to put them there, there is an appeal process that either puts them in the land of innocent, probably innocent or dead.

The percentage I find most useful, and relevant (11%) is based on the number of resolved instances of men on death row. They were either removed from DR in some form, or executed. In fact, I lowballed it with only those exonerated.

I don't think it appropriate to count cases that have yet to be resolved one way or another. Mind you, I can throw in a few more men who were executed before and sometimes after evidence against them was rendered worthless.

Originally Posted by jabberwock

133, and 139 are based on the timeframes I noted if you'd care to read the difference between them.

OK deathgod... I see you adding up every last inmate dead or alive. While courts have obviously found men on DR guilty to put them there, there is an appeal process that either puts them in the land of innocent, probably innocent or dead.

The percentage I find most useful, and relevant (11%) is based on the number of resolved instances of men on death row. They were either removed from DR in some form, or executed.

I don't think it appropriate to count cases that have yet to be resolved one way or another. Mind you, I can throw in a few more men who were executed before and sometimes after evidence against them was rendered worthless.

Your against the death penalty i get that and i can respect that. I however lean the other way. So your number fits your cause and mine fits mine. Both are rellevant numbers and im sure thay could be tweaked in either direction. I'm sure they didn't count number of death row inmates shanked in prison either.

Don't get me wrong i'm saying execute all death row inmates right off the bat. If they is a doubt let them appeal but if it's concrete fry that fucker right where he sits.

Originally Posted by jabberwock

For the record, I'm not morally against the death penalty. I'm morally against killing innocent people

Your numbers aren't based on resolved cases, though... That's like doing cancer research on a group of 100, and not seeing what everyone dies of before coming up with cancer fatality numbers.

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Originally Posted by jabberwock

For the record, I'm not morally against the death penalty. I'm morally against killing innocent people

Your numbers aren't based on resolved cases, though... That's like doing cancer research on a group of 100, and not seeing what everyone dies of before coming up with cancer fatality numbers.

I dont see how you come to that conclusion. If they are on death row then they had a trial by their peers and were found guilty to the extent that maximum punishment was given. If they've been executed same applies but the sentence was follow out. So i have to disagree with your analogy.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Originally Posted by jabberwock

For the record, I'm not morally against the death penalty. I'm morally against killing innocent people

Your numbers aren't based on resolved cases, though... That's like doing cancer research on a group of 100, and not seeing what everyone dies of before coming up with cancer fatality numbers.

I dont see how you come to that conclusion. If they are on death row then they had a trial by their peers and were found guilty to the extent that maximum punishment was given. If they've been executed same applies but the sentence was follow out. So i have to disagree with your analogy.

Fair enough.

The simplest I can say it is,

dead/exonerated = conclusive
still on death row = inconclusive

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Originally Posted by jabberwock

For the record, I'm not morally against the death penalty. I'm morally against killing innocent people

Your numbers aren't based on resolved cases, though... That's like doing cancer research on a group of 100, and not seeing what everyone dies of before coming up with cancer fatality numbers.

I dont see how you come to that conclusion. If they are on death row then they had a trial by their peers and were found guilty to the extent that maximum punishment was given. If they've been executed same applies but the sentence was follow out. So i have to disagree with your analogy.

Fair enough.

The simplest I can say it is,

dead/exonerated = conclusive
still on death row = inconclusive

By all means your allowed to have that view. As well as those that are aginst the death penalty all together.