End of Toyota?

**ninja|oaklandr** · 03-11-10, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jester(TA)

Originally Posted by Sgt.Walters

I'm a ford guy and plan to buy a ford superduty truck in a few months. Ford F-series trucks are the best selling trucks 33 years straight.

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!. Ford didnt take a bailout.Ive owned Fords for about my last 5 vehicles with no problems.I love their style.GM=Gov't motors and they sink like a rock!!! And most of all... FUCK THEY GAY ASS ASIAN CARS!!!! BUY AMERICAN and keep your fellow americans working.

If better cars were made here we wouldn't be buying Japanese cars.

I have had cars from Dodge, Chevy and now Honda. My Honda has more miles than I put on both my other cars and about 1/4 of the problems. That and all my experiences with domestic dealers sucks.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-11-10, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Guyver

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Hope so i never liked any of their cars to begin with.

You can't tell me that that isn't a sexy looking car.

(1970's era Celica.)

Looks like a 77 to me but no. If i'm buying a 70's vehicle becuase it's sexy its going to be a 71 chevelle or a 72-74 cuda.

**bust331** · 03-11-10, 05:35 PM

72 charger with a 400...my grandpa has one. He is giving it to me in his will.

**Hocus Pocus** · 03-11-10, 05:39 PM

how can it be the end? was it the end of ford when they have defected tires on the ford explorer and the tires started busting and turning over cars?

It happens to all makers. there's thousands of parts put in a car surely one will fail at one time. Will they have a buttload of suits against them? yes. Is it the end? no.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-11-10, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Even with all these problems they are having Toyota's are still better that the domestic cars. Volume wise that put out more cars than any company. They are not going anywhere.

Common misconception. No mass produced vehicles is just better because of a brand. They are all the same if you take care of them they all last. If you dont they all break. Just so you know chevy and ford consistantly sell more vehicles than toyota year after year in the US.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-11-10, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt.Walters

I'm a ford guy and plan to buy a ford superduty truck in a few months. Ford F-series trucks are the best selling trucks 33 years straight.

2 sitting in the driveway one with 23k the other with 210k.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-11-10, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Hocus Pocus

how can it be the end? was it the end of ford when they have defected tires on the ford explorer and the tires started busting and turning over cars?

It happens to all makers. there's thousands of parts put in a car surely one will fail at one time. Will they have a buttload of suits against them? yes. Is it the end? no.

I guess a faulty tire made by firestone is somehow fords fault? If thats your concern you'll be glad to know ford doesn't come with firestones any more.

**Blakeman** · 03-11-10, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Even with all these problems they are having Toyota's are still better that the domestic cars. Volume wise that put out more cars than any company. They are not going anywhere.

Common misconception. No mass produced vehicles is just better because of a brand. They are all the same if you take care of them they all last. If you don't they all break. Just so you know chevy and ford consistently sell more vehicles than toyota year after year in the US.

Not every year, toyota beat GM the year they almost went bankrupt and has been doing consistently better since then, until all this recent media hype about a recall.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-11-10, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Blakeman

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Even with all these problems they are having Toyota's are still better that the domestic cars. Volume wise that put out more cars than any company. They are not going anywhere.

Common misconception. No mass produced vehicles is just better because of a brand. They are all the same if you take care of them they all last. If you don't they all break. Just so you know chevy and ford consistently sell more vehicles than toyota year after year in the US.

Not every year, toyota beat GM the year they almost went bankrupt and has been doing consistently better since then, until all this recent media hype about a recall.

Your talking about 1 year since 1958. I think we can look at that as a fluke. As for the hype. It may just be a small portion but it is going to wreck their sales for years to come imo. Ford however was relatively unscathed with their tire ordeal.

In all seriousness this list is no joke. Vehicles going back to 2004 for an issue that was known and just glanced over thats just ridiculous.

2005-2010 Avalon
2007-2010 Camry
2009-2010 Corolla
2008-2010 Highlander
2009-2010 Matrix
2004-2010 Prius
2009-2010 RAV4
2008-2010 Sequoia
2005-2010 Tacoma
2007-2010 Tundra
2009-2010 VENZA
Lexus
2006 - 2010 IS 250
2006 - 2010 IS 350
2007 - 2010 ES 350
2010 HS 250h

So what are we at now 8 million cars recalled? Every manufactor has it's issues without a doubt but few are life threatening. Those that are usually are addressed as soon as possible not just placed in a file and forgotten until it blows up in your face.

**Fajita!** · 03-11-10, 09:32 PM

Toyota - Had it for 10 years, took it into the dealership once to fix a window that refused to roll up.

Ford - Had for 5 years, almost completely broken. Had to take it into fix the transmission, door locks, cooling/heating, and carburetor.

Not to mention that most Toyotas are made in the US, so we are still supporting domestic economy. I know for sure no one in my family will ever by Ford/GM/Chrysler again.