Thread: End of Toyota?

I have a 1990 Buick Lesabre and I've never had problems. The only problem is that the hood latch cable is frayed and it's a bitch to open the hood, oh and the fact that the lights are manual and i sometimes forget to turn them off and kill the battery, but that's my own damn fault.

I plan on sticking with buicks for quite a while.

Originally Posted by Blakeman

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by Blakeman

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Even with all these problems they are having Toyota's are still better that the domestic cars. Volume wise that put out more cars than any company. They are not going anywhere.

Common misconception. No mass produced vehicles is just better because of a brand. They are all the same if you take care of them they all last. If you don't they all break. Just so you know chevy and ford consistently sell more vehicles than toyota year after year in the US.

Not every year, toyota beat GM the year they almost went bankrupt and has been doing consistently better since then, until all this recent media hype about a recall.

Your talking about 1 year since 1958. I think we can look at that as a fluke. As for the hype. It may just be a small portion but it is going to wreck their sales for years to come imo. Ford however was relatively unscathed with their tire ordeal.

In all seriousness this list is no joke. Vehicles going back to 2004 for an issue that was known and just glanced over that's just ridiculous.

2005-2010 Avalon
2007-2010 Camry
2009-2010 Corolla
2008-2010 Highlander
2009-2010 Matrix
2004-2010 Prius
2009-2010 RAV4
2008-2010 Sequoia
2005-2010 Tacoma
2007-2010 Tundra
2009-2010 VENZA
Lexus
2006 - 2010 IS 250
2006 - 2010 IS 350
2007 - 2010 ES 350
2010 HS 250h

So what are we at now 8 million cars recalled? Every manufacturer has it's issues without a doubt but few are life threatening. Those that are usually are addressed as soon as possible not just placed in a file and forgotten until it blows up in your face.

Show me a list of how many actual accidents there have been? I can only name the two that have been on the news, the one where the family was killed that started this mess, and the one with the Prius.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6210IQ20100302?feedType=RSS&feedName=busine ssNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_c ampaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FbusinessNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Business+News%29

(Reuters) - General Motors Co is recalling 1.3 million compact cars in North America to address a power steering problem that has been linked to 14 crashes and one injury, the company said on Tuesday.

U.S. safety regulators opened an investigation on January 27 into approximately 905,000 Cobalt models in the United States after receiving more than 1,100 complaints of power steering failures. The complaints included 14 crashes and one injury.

The recall covers the 2005-2010 model year Chevrolet Cobalt and 2007-2010 Pontiac G5 in the United States; 2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit sold in Canada, and the 2005-2006 Pontiac G4 sold in Mexico, GM said in a statement.

GM said it told the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about the voluntary recall on Monday after concluding its own investigation that began in 2009.

GM said the affected vehicles can be still be "safely controlled" but it may require greater steering effort under 15 mph. Drivers will see a warning light and hear a chime if the power steering fails.

"After our in-depth investigation, we found that this is a condition that takes time to develop. It tends to occur in older models out of warranty," GM Vice President of Quality Jamie Hresko said in the statement.

"Recalling these vehicles is the right thing to do for our customers' peace of mind," he said.

GM said it is currently developing a remedy to fix the problem and will notify customers when the plan is finalized.

The recall comes at a time of heighten public and regulatory scrutiny over vehicle safety issues in the wake of massive recalls by Toyota Motor Corp.

Toyota global quality control chief Shinichi Sasaki and North American President Yoshimi Inaba are scheduled to appear before a Senate committee on Tuesday for a third hearing on its handling of consumer complaints about sudden acceleration.

No company is without its own recalls on major things. Electronic fuel injection took a long while to get 'right' and all this fancy fly by wire style automotive innovation is catching up to its gremlins as well.

Back in 2005 there were 800,000 SUVs GM made that were recalled for bad brake lines.... It was terrible that the family in that Lexus lost their lives and good that Toyota is fixing the problem, but I truly believe that this is being 'super hyped' by the media.

So basically your saying it doesn't matter until someone gets in an accident or gets killed? I also said that all companies have there problems.

deathgodusmc: what years are both of them? i'm looking at getting the new 2011.

Toyota's future really hangs in the ballance because people are still saying that the problem still occurs even after they been fixed. They can't just half-ass fix it like it sounds like. I know i wouldn't continue owning a car or truck by fixing iy half-ass and the problem still occurs.

Originally Posted by Sgt.Walters

deathgodusmc: what years are both of them? i'm looking at getting the new 2011.

Toyota's future really hangs in the ballance because people are still saying that the problem still occurs even after they been fixed. They can't just half-ass fix it like it sounds like. I know i wouldn't continue owning a car or truck by fixing iy half-ass and the problem still occurs.

99 and 07 i'm thinking of trading in the 99 for a new one but im conflicted on it. I bought the truck used for work hualing material around. So it's been beat to shit for years and it never dies. Up to a year ago it only had small dings until someone ran into it sitting in front of my house.

I should mention those are both just f150's not 350's. My work truck rutinely huals almost daily well past it's recommended capacity. At least now i use a trailer before it would have 3 or 4 200 foot rolls of carpet in the bed along with glue and everything else for a job.

People can say what they want to but i've been in flooring for 15 years and have seen every type of vehicle being used. None of which match what the fords can do on a daily bases without breaking down.

I also have to take into consideration i dont think like most when it comes to my work truck. Most spend money on there nice car and dont worry about the work truck because it's just that a work truck. Well i look at it like this. That is my work truck its what gives me the ability to own the other vehicles in my driveway. It should be taking care of equal to if not better than those because it is my lively hood.

So yeah she gets beat up daily by the weight she is required to hual but on the down time service never stops. I change the tranny filter and flush the fluid in my driveway as well as change the fluid in the rear end. What i think she might need gets done by me so i know it has been done right without skipping anything. An oil change isn't just an oil change. It comes with new air filter, fuel filter, plugs, wires, pcv, and cleaning the trottle body out. Is it over board alittle? Sure but it's the same reason it still runs like new.

We own 2 fords(2007 F250 and 2001 Focus) and 2 Toyotas(2008 Solara Convertible and 2010 Prius....we bought it despite the recall a couple of weeks ago). Before the prius, my stepdad had a 4-runner from 1987 and it still ran great. Its difficult to compare the quality from past vehicles with vehicle now because of the complexity of things today. My Focus gets the general things here and there, but the F250 has had a lot of problems come up.

The guy in California didn't get his fixed, he got the letter and went to the dealership and the dealership said he didn't need it when he really did. That is the dealer's fault. Also, the guy had 2 options..1: shift into Neutral 2: hold down the power button for more than 3 seconds. SIMPLE. As someone who got one recently, I know the instructions that say that came on the little hangy thing that explains how to start your car with the push-button. Also I hear that his claim that he held the brakes down was proven wrong by investigators. They said it was intermittently pressed in bursts. LERN YUR CARZ PEPLES!!!

Originally Posted by HeavyG

Originally Posted by Sgt.Walters

We've heard about all the trouble toyota is having and now with this recent incident in California in which the car acclerated, is this possibly the end of toyota? Thank goodness i don't have a toyota.

Are you serious? Toyota is still a monster. As in, a $10.9 trillion. Compare this to Ford, a $44.9 billion company.

It would take a lot more than some bad press and stuck gas pedals to bring down this giant. They still sell more cars than anyone else.

Not really a fair comparison. Ford is cars and trucks. Toyota is cars, trucks, homes, marine, biotechnology, business backing, tools, and who knows what else. Now if you were to take just the automotive side and compair them it wouldn't seem so out of place.