this pisses me the f*** off

**moving-target** · 05-07-10, 05:03 PM

looked like your avrage white middle class home and fuck distraction thats an excuse they should have the ability to focus on the task at hand a crying kid is also a distraction why not just shoot the kid to

**CivilWars** · 05-07-10, 05:06 PM

Tell ya what, since the job is so easy when you get out of high school and mom and dads house you go show them how its done.

**moving-target** · 05-07-10, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Tell ya what, since the job is so easy when you get out of high school and mom and dads house you go show them how its done.

sure thing once i figure out how to time travel back to 1997 i'll get right on it

**CivilWars** · 05-07-10, 05:16 PM

Great, so with your knowledge and expertise you should make chief in like a week, go show those fools how easy the job really is if they just did it your way.

**KYle** · 05-07-10, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by moving-target

looked like your avrage white middle class home and fuck distraction thats an excuse they should have the ability to focus on the task at hand a crying kid is also a distraction why not just shoot the kid to

Lol so apparently violent people with guns and drugs ONLY live in the ghetto or lower class areas?? It doesnt matter what the house your hitting looks like the moment you drop your guard like that you might as well throw everything else you learned away.. You probably have watched episodes of cops and videos like this on the internet and think you have know what its like.. I have been around stuff like this long enough to know that i wouldnt dare drop my gaurd

**~~Cyanide~~** · 05-07-10, 06:14 PM

Sick... Just truly sick...

**GReYVee** · 05-07-10, 06:36 PM

Corgi's can be aggressive and territorial little fucks. The officer shot it in the leg to neutralize it, and I highly doubt this was done unless the dog charged at him. Yeah, I don't think a Corgi is gonna do much damage, but it can be one hell of a distraction gnawing at your crotch.

Now the caged Pit Bull? Seems kinda wrong, a caged animal isn't a distraction. But than I spose it could pose a problem with some type of remote lock the owner presses to release it. I can certainly believe the pit bull, invaded like that, will also be a territorial aggressive little bastard, and CAN do a shit load of damage to a human being.

SWAT go into these situations with very specific training/conditioning. All that gear they wear isn't just for show. Shit these guys wear harnesses so they can be supported by one other to lean backwards into staircases where getting visibility above you means life or death. They do what they have to do to stay safe.

I will refrain from discussing the reason the SWAT came in, because I see that as excessive force, but this seems to be standard procedure when dealing with possible drug dealers. (Considering the violence often involved in those raids)

**flame** · 05-07-10, 07:08 PM

My bitch is due process of law. Warrant is not a free pass. It doesnt signify guilt. I see the use of swat becoming a reckless habit of police forces. To me it is a bragging right for depts and they increase size and duties of swat. Now we are subjects under military rule. This is america and if I am suspected of a crime, I am still innocent until proven guilty and deserve full due process and respect. Being suspect in a crime does not mean you lose your rights as an american, nor should you be treated any different than any other citizen.

More and more I see an overuse of force(swat) I support having a safe society, I support prosecuting criminals. However it needs to be done right. There are obvious times where situations need to be taken control of, where the suspect is the aggressor. Like I said, drugs are very bad and have ruined many lives, we need to fix our society, but overly aggressive police forces acting like military commandos is not america.

Of course there are criminals that act stupid, resist arrest, spit on the cops and the like; then by all means tackle them, taze them, etc. They pull a gun, well, match the force.

Protocol doesnt make it right. I disagree with many protocols, fire, ems, police, they all have bad protocols. Working for change and creating a truly progressive public safety system is something I desire. Turning police force into military like forces is regressive. Creating fire depts that work from every angle to protect the community is something I have been involved with for years. Running 100mph is dangerous and I call out depts that are reckless in their response. Its not just police that I have a problem with.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 05-08-10, 06:14 PM

Has anybody noticed what this guy is "guilty" of? He was a pot dealer for the love of Science. They got him to plead guilty to possession of pot paraphernalia.... This guy doesn't sound like the type to go down in the blaze of glory over pot. Coke, X, Heroin then you might have good reasoning that someone is going to violently protect his shit,...... but some guy peddling Hippy Lettuce? C'mon, No reason to bust in in the early AM, nor to shoot the man's dogs.

**deathgodusmc** · 05-08-10, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Has anybody noticed what this guy is "guilty" of? He was a pot dealer for the love of Science. They got him to plead guilty to possession of pot paraphernalia.... This guy doesn't sound like the type to go down in the blaze of glory over pot. Coke, X, Heroin then you might have good reasoning that someone is going to violently protect his shit,...... but some guy peddling Hippy Lettuce? C'mon, No reason to bust in in the early AM, nor to shoot the man's dogs.

It's not like people who deal pot would ever deal anything else. They did their job. Not exstatic about killing the dogs but the big picture makes it that way. None of us nor the swat team knows the potential for an animal to attack. Those cages will not hold an animal in that wants out bad enough. My sister has gone through 4 or 5 of them with her dog. They do it so none of them get hurt in the process.

Could have been avoided by getting a real job like the rest of us. Pretty simple.