Apple to restrict games/apps on next OS X update "Mountain Lion"

**dex71** · 03-18-12, 07:43 AM

Prosper loves Apple. He keeps an iphone stashed, and edits the clothes off of all of Steve Job's pictures. Some say it's a problem, while Prosper says it's his passion.

Gonna name his son Mac, too. True story.

**Warprosper** · 03-18-12, 07:48 AM

If only that were true

I Hate apple as a company, as a product, and i'm tired of them supporting the proprietary business model. FUCK EM!!!

**AetheLove** · 03-18-12, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

FUCK EM!!!

There's an app for that.

Originally Posted by Warprosper

I Hate apple as a company, as a product, and i'm tired of them supporting the proprietary business model.

That model isn't particularly unusual in the industry, no?

Cheers,

AetheLove

**Warprosper** · 03-18-12, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by AetheLove

There's an app for that.

That model isn't particularly unusual in the industry, no?

Cheers,

AetheLove

I dont know of any other company that requires you use their software in order to play music you own on a device you own..

**Guyver** · 03-18-12, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

I dont know of any other company that requires you use their software in order to play music you own on a device you own..

That's why you don't buy an Ipod, you buy one of these:
JetAudio

**SapiensErus** · 03-18-12, 01:32 PM

The thing that I find funny is Apple has become the type of business they were trying to get MS busted for in the 80s/90s. So proprietary and exclusive...

Remember when they had physically different architecture and only some companies made exclusive software for them? People still say things like: "Macs are better for graphics and video editing" which we all know to be not true anymore (at one time Macs came with powerful video and audio cards that PC's did not (and couldn't because back then a PC was a physically different machine) and Adobe only made their products for Mac), but people still think that. People also insist a Mac is so much easier to understand and use, but MS has hired teams of Psychologists also and anymore Windows is just as friendly and "intuitive" but the market has been sold and perpetuated.

The school I work at, Reed college, their entire IT infrastructure is Mac based. I hate it frankly... I think in this case it is the insistence of the academically elite and also that Steve Jobs was a Reedie.

What would have happened today if Amiga had won out over Atari, Apple, and the other machine/OS integrated systems? I loved my Video Toaster.

**AetheLove** · 03-18-12, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

I dont know of any other company that requires you use their software in order to play music you own on a device you own..

I use other software on MacOS. I use other software on classic iPods.

If you buy from the ITMS, then you're mostly stuck. You can un-encumber it, but it's not convenient. iTunes will do a fine job of managing (some) other audio formats.

So I assume you're talking about iOS devices. I can understand how Apple can justify it, though I wish it was different. What I don't see is how that's much different from how lots of other vendors in this market work.

Cheers,

AetheLove

**Alundil** · 03-18-12, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by SoySoldier

The thing that I find funny is Apple has become the type of business they were trying to get MS busted for in the 80s/90s. So proprietary and exclusive...

Remember when they had physically different architecture and only some companies made exclusive software for them? People still say things like: "Macs are better for graphics and video editing" which we all know to be not true anymore (at one time Macs came with powerful video and audio cards that PC's did not (and couldn't because back then a PC was a physically different machine) and Adobe only made their products for Mac), but people still think that. People also insist a Mac is so much easier to understand and use, but MS has hired teams of Psychologists also and anymore Windows is just as friendly and "intuitive" but the market has been sold and perpetuated.

The school I work at, Reed college, their entire IT infrastructure is Mac based. I hate it frankly... I think in this case it is the insistence of the academically elite and also that Steve Jobs was a Reedie.

What would have happened today if Amiga had won out over Atari, Apple, and the other machine/OS integrated systems? I loved my Video Toaster.

Well said Soy. And prosper is correct in stating that most people (excluded much of TPG as we're not average anything) who own/promote macs have no "need" to justify a mac over any other platform. It's a style and status thing.

And Soy is also correct to state that there was a time, long ago, where propriety hardware and the software to support it was one of the big drivers to macs for niche markets. But the last 10 years or so has obviated that feather in the cap for Apple as PCs, the OS, and the hardware have caught up and in some cases surpassed Apple's offerings.

And I, too, note the irony of Apple becoming what they railed against (and Google too).

**RhysJD3** · 03-18-12, 03:34 PM

I was a in a video store many years ago. The clerk was telling a customer how much MS is an evil empire and how Apple isn't. Fact of the matter is they are both businesses looking out for their own interests. They are both evil empires in similar fashions in that respect.

What amuses me most though is how MS gets the crap beat out of them for monopolist practices... They had to remove the features to create pdf's directly from Office 2007 and make it a completely separate download that most people don't know about. Apple has it built into their OS and as far as I know, they haven't been taken to court over this.

I do think Apple does some very nice things with their hardware though. However, I'm a person who likes to build my own machine.

**Warprosper** · 03-18-12, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by AetheLove

I use other software on MacOS. I use other software on classic iPods.

If you buy from the ITMS, then you're mostly stuck. You can un-encumber it, but it's not convenient. iTunes will do a fine job of managing (some) other audio formats.

So I assume you're talking about iOS devices. I can understand how Apple can justify it, though I wish it was different. What I don't see is how that's much different from how lots of other vendors in this market work.

Cheers,

AetheLove

Because for the average user Apple will take your mp3s and make them playable only on apple devices. Its not like the average user can migrate an itunes library to another device without having some issues with it.

Another thing is the OS. They give no freedom to install the os on any other hardware platform.. Im talking about the average user.... So in conclusion Apple has picked their target, modeled the product based on that target, and then proceeds to limit the use of "itunes" to it's own proprietary format.

I'm curious as to which vendor your talking about and lets be realistic about it... Dont want to hear of some database vendor that has a backend that only works on their system.. I want to hear about the large multibillion dollar tech corporations that do this.

Microsoft doesnt... They dont give a shit where you get your music.... the MS os pretty much says yea if i can play it i can copy it to a device for you..

Apple says ... if it's not apple then fuck you..

Then again Apple wouldn't be anywhere near it is today if it weren't for the damn hipster uprising.