Do I have enough power? UPDATED

**Pois0n** · 09-10-08, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Originally Posted by Tractorpull

Because the 9000 series Geforce cards aren't that great of a leap forward.

Yeah tractor nailed it. The 9000 series are just a die shrink on the same architecture of the 8000 series.

They might run cooler but heat was never an issue to begin with.

i was looking at that but then my RAM wouldnt go together wit that cuz its 800 right

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-10-08, 10:39 AM

If you man your ram is ddr800 then that has nothing to do with the vidcard. That ram is standard and will work in any ddr2 compatible motherboard.

**vexle** · 09-10-08, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Pois0n

yeah i wanna try to keep this price

EDIT: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136178
do you think that HDD would be better or no because its 8mb

Try this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136073 It's the closest thing to your original choice that comes in SATA. Same spin rate, cache, and size, at a bargain. As for SATAII, I can't testify. The numbers say it should be a huge improvement, but I've yet to find anybody who saw a difference, and I just use a regular SATA drive. Either way, HD's are cheap, so buy all you can get.

As an aside, you've done a fantastic job getting cheap parts. You've got twice the RAM I've got, for the same money, and my rig's only maybe six or seven months old. At this point if there's one part you want to splurge on, you've probably earned it.

**Pois0n** · 09-10-08, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

If you man your ram is ddr800 then that has nothing to do with the vidcard. That ram is standard and will work in any ddr2 compatible motherboard.

i know it has nothing to do with vid card, i just assumed that 800 wouldnt work in a 1066 slot

**Mojo** · 09-10-08, 10:42 AM

RAM Bandwidth is limited to slowest stick in place, and Northbridge (MOBO chip) limitations.
Any sticks that are rated a faster speeds than MOBO can handle will default down to BUS speeds available.
So, you can run 1066 MHZ RAM in 800MHZ board, or mix with 800 MHZ RAM stick, still will drop down to slowest speed, as long a correct voltage is supplied. This will be listed in RAM specs.

Overclockers usually buy faster RAM so when they ramp up speeds, RAM won't be limitation since it already was supposed to run faster anyway.

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-10-08, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Pois0n

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

If you man your ram is ddr800 then that has nothing to do with the vidcard. That ram is standard and will work in any ddr2 compatible motherboard.

i know it has nothing to do with vid card, i just assumed that 800 wouldnt work in a 1066 slot

Oh I misunderstood you.

DDR2 compatible m/b's are compatible with DDR2 1066 and DDR2 800 memory. DDR2 800 runs slower but has almost no discernible difference in performance and it's cheaper. In fact when installing 4gb of ram it's recommended to run DDR2 800 b/c DDR2 1066 tends to cause problems.

**Pois0n** · 09-10-08, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

RAM Bandwidth is limited to slowest stick in place, and Northbridge (MOBO chip) limitations.
Any sticks that are rated a faster speeds than MOBO can handle will default down to BUS speeds available.
So, you can run 1066 MHZ RAM in 800MHZ board, or mix with 800 MHZ RAM stick, still will drop down to slowest speed, as long a correct voltage is supplied. This will be listed in RAM specs.

Overclockers usually buy faster RAM so when they ramp up speeds, RAM won't be limitation since it already was supposed to run faster anyway.

ur 100% sure? and also i have to ask, shouldnt i get this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131335

instead of this one that u recommened: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131275

**SapiensErus** · 09-10-08, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Pois0n

what makes it faster?

the 9600 has fewer streaming processors. This makes the 8800 GT capable of chewing up more data at once and thus be slightly faster. If you can afford it, the ATi 4850 is the way to go right now. But the 8800 GT is a better bet than the 9600 right now.

I am not an an ATi expert, but here is the cheapest 4850 at Newegg, and it is a sapphire:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102770 149.99 after 20 dollar MIR. This will outperform the 9600 GT and the 8800 GT substantially. I am pretty sure it is out of the price range you wanted though.

600 Watts is plenty.. it would even be enough if you had an SLI or Crossfire system. People have been making a trend of buying much larger PS than they need lately. I was running SLI 8800 GTS 640s (power hogs) 3 HDDs, 2 optical drives and a dual core AMD on a 550...it was barely enough, but it worked, now I have the same setup with a 750 and I have more than enough juice.

Get a slightly cheaper mobo and get the 4850 maybe?

Any DDR2 will work in any DDR2 slot, it will just clock to the lowest stick or the lowest bus. Also, that mobo you picked it is not a true 1066. It is an OCed 800; they can give some memory problems.

Good luck, with any of those cards it will run all the TTP games fine!

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-10-08, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Pois0n

Originally Posted by Mojo

RAM Bandwidth is limited to slowest stick in place, and Northbridge (MOBO chip) limitations.
Any sticks that are rated a faster speeds than MOBO can handle will default down to BUS speeds available.
So, you can run 1066 MHZ RAM in 800MHZ board, or mix with 800 MHZ RAM stick, still will drop down to slowest speed, as long a correct voltage is supplied. This will be listed in RAM specs.

Overclockers usually buy faster RAM so when they ramp up speeds, RAM won't be limitation since it already was supposed to run faster anyway.

ur 100% sure? and also i have to ask, shouldnt i get this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131335

instead of this one that u recommened: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131275

Good find. Yeah go for that one b/c it is the P45 which is an update of the P35 that I recommended.

**Pois0n** · 09-10-08, 06:24 PM

and i bought it with one adjustment-changed the ram from 800 to 1066, now ill finally be able to play above 15 fps on the lowest settings, you bitches are going down