Thread: 1and1 Hosting, scam you when you try to cancel

Isn't everything prepay? If so, and you got that $11.5 issue resolved, then you shouldn't have to pay any outstanding debt they talk about.

You know what I do for cancelling things? I have a Citicard that allows me to use one-time use virtual CC numbers for online purchases. If I ever encounter a place that gives me a hard time cancelling (my gym for example only lets you cancel by letter) I change my CC charges for that place to a virtual number. They can only charge one more time to my account and then charges get refused. Then I just forget about it.

Originally Posted by gehn

Isn't everything prepay? If so, and you got that $11.5 issue resolved, then you shouldn't have to pay any outstanding debt they talk about.

You know what I do for cancelling things? I have a Citicard that allows me to use one-time use virtual CC numbers for online purchases. If I ever encounter a place that gives me a hard time cancelling (my gym for example only lets you cancel by letter) I change my CC charges for that place to a virtual number. They can only charge one more time to my account and then charges get refused. Then I just forget about it.

Had to do that with IGN prime.

So what do I do with these people? I need some advice. Now their systems fucked thinks everything that happened in 2011 happened in 2012 (exact fees but 2012 instead of 2011) and of course their records do not have any of my payments (I have bank statements that verify i paid the exact amounts they claim i owe).
Last time they contracted to a debt collection agency to bug me...
I've done everything in my power to be civil here, but they are just harassing me now. Every time deal with their billing department to correct some mistake they made, they forgot they fixed it.


How can i threaten? Do i just tell them to fuck off? Do i ignore them and just show the bank statements if they file any thing?

talk to your lawyer again

Oh I see, they are trying to claim my account was magically reactivated (even though 12 months later i still cannot log in, if it was reactivated, I'd have to be able to login to reactivate it)


Fuck em, i provided all relevant invoices and bank statements showing I paid said invoices. Told em to take me to court, I will gladly pay court fees to watch

I will gladly pay court costs just to watch their scam fall apart when they try to explain it to a judge.

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The Debt Collection Act covers any conduct by a person trying to collect a consumer debt.The Act prohibits practices that are false, deceptive, harassing or abusive. It supplements the federal debt collection act that applies to only third party debt collectors who are collecting debts for someone else.
Debt Collection Act:

The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act:

• http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/cons...edit/cre27.pdf

Related Federal Consumer Laws:

• Liability for Lost or Stolen Credit Card - 15 United States Code § 1643
• Liability for Unauthorized Credit Card Charge - 12 Code of Federal Regulations § 226.12
• Liability for Lost or Stolen Debit Card - 15 United States Code § 1693
• Billing Errors - 15 United States Code § 1666
• Billing Error Rules - Code of Federal Regulations § 226.13
• Credit Reporting - 15 United States Code § 1681

Just make sure to watch your credit score, Bunni.

So what hosting have you found does provide a good service?

Originally Posted by deputyfestus

The Debt Collection Act covers any conduct by a person trying to collect a consumer debt.The Act prohibits practices that are false, deceptive, harassing or abusive. It supplements the federal debt collection act that applies to only third party debt collectors who are collecting debts for someone else.
Debt Collection Act:

The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act:

• http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/cons...edit/cre27.pdf

Related Federal Consumer Laws:

• Liability for Lost or Stolen Credit Card - 15 United States Code § 1643
• Liability for Unauthorized Credit Card Charge - 12 Code of Federal Regulations § 226.12
• Liability for Lost or Stolen Debit Card - 15 United States Code § 1693
• Billing Errors - 15 United States Code § 1666
• Billing Error Rules - Code of Federal Regulations § 226.13
• Credit Reporting - 15 United States Code § 1681

oh there was text lol! you message looked like nothing but links in the dark theme (text was not visible), haha.


So does this apply still if i given them my debit card? I assume the first 3 do not, but the last 3 do?


How do i refer to these? USC Title 15, Part 1643? Or its it sections and subsections?

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Just make sure to watch your credit score, Bunni.

Can this affect my credit score, even if they never had my credit card number? I am not familar with our ecnomic, financial systems :< I assume the debt collection agencies are the ones who will make the link between me and my credit and cause the harm?

Originally Posted by gehn

So what hosting have you found does provide a good service?

siteground is awesome, extremely low cost and beyond 99% uptime.

DO NOT, i repeat do not use bluehost (in the remote possibility that you might, let me warn you). I had them loose a clients entire account (db's and filesystem) and they did not even notice! When i inquired, they merely responded, verbatim "Huh, thats interesting"....



Rackspace is AWESOME (especially the cloud) if you are looking for stronger backbone servers. Our forums application has grown quite a bit beyond what they initially advised us would work well on the cloud so i cut them slack on our forums running slow. But they've always treated us as VIP's (and we are some of the smaller ... well medium fish they host) and are always, always a pleasure to deal with their customer support, highly informed, and knowledgable ( a true rarity)

I hope this helps this guy as far as I know is the only honest lawyer left in the world. He does all these classes free of charge.



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