Thread: 28 Days Later vs Left 4 Dead

I'd like to see l4d2 win this... what a fight it'd be though! Baron brings up a good point that the rage virus makes their 'zombies' stronger.

But I think the S.I. would win it for l4d2. x]

The charger would cause immense disruption, bowling knots of the raged over, the hunter would be killing a lot of people, smoker and jockey...might suck here. Spitter and boomer would inflict damage and direct the infected C.I, respectively. The witch and the tank? HAVE YOU SEEN THEM?! The witch would go on a frenzy, and the tank would be able to do a lot of damage unsupported, let alone if he was fighting alongside C.I and S.I.

But yeah, my vote goes to the L4D2 infectoids.

Originally Posted by Rorhag

I'd like to see l4d2 win this... what a fight it'd be though! Baron brings up a good point that the rage virus makes their 'zombies' stronger.

But I think the S.I. would win it for l4d2. x]

The charger would cause immense disruption, bowling knots of the raged over, the hunter would be killing a lot of people, smoker and jockey...might suck here. Spitter and boomer would inflict damage and direct the infected C.I, respectively. The witch and the tank? HAVE YOU SEEN THEM?! The witch would go on a frenzy, and the tank would be able to do a lot of damage unsupported, let alone if he was fighting alongside C.I and S.I.

But yeah, my vote goes to the L4D2 infectoids.

The Spitter aside from its acid is essentially a human, a sufficiently weakened human, so after its initial burst injuring a few people at best it would be quickly overwhelmed.

The charger, that's one I can't argue with, they are uncommon (Approximately 1 in 400), though when they do arrive they would rip through large amounts of the rage infected, however the charge although it injures people it isn't lethal, if there were any rage infected close by they could kill him with ease, though expect a broken arm or so for getting in his way.

The tank, considering he has no real intelligence, just the urge to kill the un-infected without regard for his allies (If an infected is in it's path at all he won't even mind batting it away and crushing it's bones) and its apparent lack of ability to feel pain it could take down hundreds (However tanks seem to only be approximately 1 in 1,000) before succumbing to its wounds (It easily having the ability to shake them off and break their necks on a wall or the ground.

The boomer; It would depend on whether or not the rage infected were aware of its explosive abilities or it's bile. Either way I honestly doubt the rage infected would care either way. Considering the speed, insanity and bloodlust They would likely just kill them and though they would be injured by it's initial explosion they would continue to deal with the L4D infected.
Also, it doesn't appear that the boomer has any actual intellect and just wishes to kill the un-infected and release their bile upon them, so they wouldn't really direct them, however swarming those who are covered would definitely have them killed.

The smoker would be useful in maybe taking out a lone rage infected, however if confronted they would die. The only way a smoker could really be of use is if they had the jump and if their attacks were uninterrupted.

The jockey would charge in headlong and go at the face like an idiot. He'd be fucked up pretty fast.

The witch... well they aren't really controlled and seem to do whatever they want which is normally walking around or sitting down silently sobbing. Though if one were confronted they could probably take down 15 quite swiftly before quickly being killed, however she would really only attack those around her, and the aforementioned number would apply if she were swarmed, if it were one on one... well those poor stupid rage infected bastards.

EDIT: These numbers are all assuming they are big swarms fighting, which is pretty much how both sides seem to prefer to operate.


I'm really over thinking this.

just a bit

Except 28 days later isn't the first movie with running zombies, you have to go back to the 80's for that, or was it the 70's meh i forget, but Nightmare City & Return of the living dead came way before 28 days, infact there were zombie movies, where the zombies were not dead but infected with some 'radiation virus' and zombified. they were even shooting guns, Talking, and stabbing people and what not before 'Land of the dead'

and 28 days later does not have 'speacial infected' nor do they climb walls n shit. xD

Zombies have thrown up before both 28 days and L4D so idunno why that was brought up as a similiarity, both of them took original ideas from something.

Also you don't have to seperate Zombies/infected since often times Zombies are infected thats why they're zombies, George Romero's Zombies much like the modern vampires/Werewolves now have all been replaced by 'Modern Zombies' the term no longer means 'Has to be undead', and people who are alive and infected fit the Zombie category "brain dead, hungry bastard'.

Anyways the 'Zombies' in 28 days later, died without food for a long period of time, im guessing L4D2 zombies don't need to eat, thus they would win

I think the L4D2 infected would be superior for one reason - that the Tank could singlehandedly decimate huge hordes of rage virus infected. It would literally sweep them away, and all they would be able to do in return is scratch and bite at its tough skin.

Originally Posted by The_Feesh

I do agree with this but a thought just struck me whilst I was reading it.

If the rage virus is transferred in a drop of blood and the tank goes wading in there being all... tank like... smashing shit up. Would there be a chance that the rage virus could infect him, or indeed any othe L4D infected for that matter.

Just a thought, but some kind of wierd cross mutation is a pretty odd thought, imagine the tank mutating further! <<<<<< He'd be just a bit mad!

Well, I believe the L4D virus is water borne and seems to have to be transmissable in people's breath, so theoretically the same could happen the other way lol

Guess for the purposes of this we have to assume neither can infect the other, though in all likelihood one virus would probably kill the other and become dominant.

Originally Posted by Radicalcannibal

Except 28 days later isn't the first movie with running zombies, you have to go back to the 80's for that, or was it the 70's meh i forget, but Nightmare City & Return of the living dead came way before 28 days, infact there were zombie movies, where the zombies were not dead but infected with some 'radiation virus' and zombified. they were even shooting guns, Talking, and stabbing people and what not before 'Land of the dead'

and 28 days later does not have 'speacial infected' nor do they climb walls n shit. xD

Zombies have thrown up before both 28 days and L4D so idunno why that was brought up as a similiarity, both of them took original ideas from something.

Also you don't have to seperate Zombies/infected since often times Zombies are infected thats why they're zombies, George Romero's Zombies much like the modern vampires/Werewolves now have all been replaced by 'Modern Zombies' the term no longer means 'Has to be undead', and people who are alive and infected fit the Zombie category "brain dead, hungry bastard'.

Anyways the 'Zombies' in 28 days later, died without food for a long period of time, im guessing L4D2 zombies don't need to eat, thus they would win

We were never saying one came up with its particular version of the sub-genre, we were comparing them directly, although when it comes to the sub-genre the term "zombie" is looser than a hooker the day the sailors come home and so it has branched off, most referring to themselves as infected instead of as zombies. Also, the infections of L4D and 28DL don't kill the host, it can cause horrendous mutations (L4D only), hyper aggression (Applies to both), strong surges of strength, etc, etc. Both mediums show (28DL especially) that the infected have maintained some level of intelligence.

Regarding Romero's work, the people didn't always have to die ((In the original movie people would pass out and then rise, however the sequels (which have higher standing and are considered canon for the series) seem to dispute this, most likely because of the co-director, etc, it's an interesting story, I won't mention it, but the man he worked on the first flick with was a hack)) to become an infected/living dead. I re-read a section, you mentioned "Return of the Living Dead", that's the co-director's (co-director of NotLD, as mentioned above; please note he maintained rights to the original movie and both were licensed to continue the franchise free of each other) Abortionary sequel to the original movie (100% independant of Romero), though to get the director he wanted he was forced to allow the director to pretty much turn it into an extremely dark (and terribly shitty) comedy. People don't normally consider comedies canon, however the opinions of nerds has never really mattered. Finally, I never heard of nightmare city, however now I'm considering renting it, but I'm not so sure about what date you're talking about, "Return of the Living Dead" came out in the very early nineties.

Basically what I said there past my raging at some terrible movies (RotLD is now considered one of the worst movies of all time, not just my opinion, it literally is, do some searches), is that the entire Zombie concept has branched out like you mentioned, however most times when details were changed that it would almost always be referred to as an infection and rarely (if ever at all) as zombies. This is also me being protective of my nerd culture, we must protect what remains of it! We've lost Vampires, Werewolves and countless others, save the zombies!

I bet no one read all of that, I feel like it's a massive nonsensical ramble, so I probably wouldn't even re-read it myself out of fear of finally realizing I'm an even bigger tool than I would lend myself to believe.

I just read through this whole post and replies and in my opinion Left 4 Dead infected would kill it personally.

Raging zombies could only get so far and even if they retain some intelligence i think the special infected would over power that intelligence with there abilities, and although if there was a genuine Left 4 Dead Vs 28Days Later zombie battle, i seriously think that there would be NO cooldowns on special infected specials, meaning a charger could continuously charge through many enemies, and to back this up it seems the infected can run all day without stopping for a breather on both sides, so why would a charger be any different, also if the cooldowns were removed a spitter (although im sure it would take some time (but not as much as l4d have) to gather up more spit) would cover vast aries in spitter goo (maybe it would damage l4d infected to, or maybe due to the infection being similar could prevent damage being done to them) and would surely spit this goo on many 28DL infected, a jockey could probably rip open a 28DL infected jaw maybe an instant kill or maybe not still it could happen, smokers would choke but would undoubtably get there tongues broke in the process but could simply fire again, boomers would just send more infected there way causing over powerment in the numbers, hunters would get pwned, tanks would be pwning to both sides but targeting 28DL before the L4D, wandering witches would no doubt get annoyed at 28DL and rip them apart, and the rage in virus in 28DL would cause them to attack even a sitting down witch, thus ripping them apart.

And also if the special infected used there abilities well (example: smoker/spitter being up high) then i think there would be minimal competition.

That being said 28 days later wouldnt go down without an obvious fight, but i still believe L4D would clear it without to much trouble