Map Change Request

**Stick** · 01-05-09, 08:31 PM

Hey guys, wanting to ask you guys here at TTP about making a map change. lets say the one currently running domation on showdown isnt a great map as far as teamplay and making a trade for overgrown S and D? just a suggestion and ill watch and see what everyone has to say about it
Thanks
Stick

**DJ Ms. White** · 01-05-09, 11:03 PM

Showdown was voted in by people (I don't know why :P; B is way too pivotal). However, there are two things you can do:

Convince people to change their votes for their favorite maps
Come up with an argument that shows why Showdown isn't teamplayer on mode A but would work on mode B

**Braddoc** · 01-05-09, 11:15 PM

we played a large crowd on this earlier, and i think it worked out pretty well. i will second this!

showdown does not work in it's current form. actually, it works if there is less 6 or less people per team, but anymore than that, and it's just junk. i suggested elsewhere that it be tried out on SnD, but somehow that got ignored.

**Graverunner** · 01-05-09, 11:32 PM

I always thought it was okay on sab

**DancingCorpse** · 01-06-09, 12:11 AM

Showdown is more optimized for a (forgive me for saying this) Team Deathmatch game style, IMO. I would however like to see how a SD Showdown would go (never played it like that), to me it looks like there might be potential for that map on SD to me.

The map looks like, with no respawn, that you need to be slightly more coordinated on the teams to do a successful round. You can't just go around one side or the other, everything gets centralized into the middle indefinitely, either from the stairs for either side of the map, the middle entrance, or the two side entrances, which all correspond with each other equally as far as layout goes. There are also great places to hide and take cover for an excellent shootout, and it is certainly one of the few maps that a rush from any one, or even a group of players is out of the question because it spells almost certain death if the other team has their act even semi together. It could be a true one mistake and you die type of map.

Right now on Domination it seems that it would just be a constant push back and forth along a lateral line for the flags since they are not offset or anything of the like, it is just a straight run for each of them, especially if you are one of the better players and can get from one flag to the other in a general straight line if you can hold your own.

Do note that this is the view of someone who is familiar with the map Showdown in the TeamDeathmatch mode but have never played it in either S&D or Domination, so I am just saying it how I see it.

**Stick** · 01-06-09, 03:22 PM

Showdown, i could see it being something other then what it is now. but being that it is currently running as Domation anytime that map comes up it is almost instantly voted for next map, but the point being anytime you have more then lets say 12-16 players in game on that map, teamplay turns into kaos with in my opition no one has a good plan being such a small map with not many opitions..i know you all just had a vote on what maps everyone wanted, but what type of game play atleast for that map would make a difference, take pipeline for example great map with many opitions and a great teamplay type map perfect for cod4 and the TTP server.
but this is just my 2 cents, as most of yall know i spend some time playing on your alls server and enjoy that time but either way thanks for hearing what i had to say and catch yall on the battlefield
GET SOME
Stick

**Highpants** · 01-06-09, 04:00 PM

Showdown, is mostly bad because of the spawn points and size. I would think that it's bad because of some of the same reasons why we switched from HC to Normal. One person, ONE measly person can tip the balance of the entire game. Grenades can be flung from one flag to the other over walls, and 1 Shooter can take out anyone near a flag. Now out of the HC-Normal dispute, the spawns are ridiculous. You spawn 3 meters from the capture radius of the flag, and grenades+bullets constantly pour in. Complete 3-flag Domination nearly always is attainable for half of the match due to this.

**DancingCorpse** · 01-06-09, 05:35 PM

That is why I would like to advocate the use of S&D on Showdown. The map is just big enough that the nades will not reach all the way to the spawns and it would be suicide to rush up just to spam them. I did get a chance of Domination on Showdown last night with only 4 people and even that, in my honest opinion, was just ridiculous how close you spawned to the flags and how I could see it could easily become very one sided with the number of players we get at prime hours.

My vote is to switch it to S&D.