Thread: Wait...

Originally Posted by ¤[BlitzKrieg]¤

So... he did just get banned for saying the servers sucked?

It was his first time on TPG (I believe) and he was used to playing on some of the best servers available. He was basically saying that he wouldn't be doing very well on the servers because they aren't up at his standard servers that he is used to playing on. That would be like the people who say something along the lines of "Wow I should have got that pounce..." They are nearly saying the server messed up or maybe it was their ping spiked or something like that, but nobody ever gets in trouble. He said the servers sucked directly and others don't do that. I don't think he was going to come in and post his concerns, he was just stating that things weren't going how they normally do because of the server. It was almost like he got banned for not signing up on the forums and explaining his one sentence. So unless there was more to this conversation, I don't see that as ban-worthy... correct me please.

Sorry posting from my phone but refer back to ira's post. He was banned for much more than that. Why would we ever ban for someone saying the server is laggy? That just boggles my mind...

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Originally Posted by enf

Sorry posting from my phone but refer back to ira's post. He was banned for much more than that. Why would we ever ban for someone saying the server is laggy? That just boggles my mind...

Sent from enf nation.

This.


We have people complain about lag all the time....as it's been said, there's a difference between saying, "Wow...this server is laggy/lagging." and "Fuck this server, it's a laggy piece of shit."

whether the guy had a valid reason to be banned or not should be brought up in the admin abuse section. then a proper investigation would be done into the logs.

since he didnt care to be unbanned whether he was right or not, the investigation was never put into place.

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

I just want to see the text log from that game, because every person in that game I've spoken to hasn't said jack about a warning, official or otherwise. Without that, he can't be arguing with an admin, and with it being his first time on a TPG server he's not exactly likely to know who's an admin in the first place so it'd have to be an official warning for it to mean anything, not just the admin saying over VOIP to tone it down or something.

Ignorance of the rule doesn't make him immune from it. And what if a player was telling him not to? It's still a rule that he's breaking. The fact that it requires an admin to get him to stop shows his lack of respect for the players and the servers in general.

This idea comes up in css all the time. If players are warning a T that it is bannable to not follow the call and he doesn't care(aka "I do what I want"), and there's not admin present, does that make what he's doing any less bannable? No.

I kind of see a correlation to l4d and tf2 here... We kind of went through the same competitive vs fun arguments where a group wanted to take it seriously and micro manage the game with all these extra rules and config changes and it really sucked away the fun aspect of the game. What some of you need to realize is that while some of us might say we're playing to have fun, it doesn't mean that we aren't playing to win. But it also means that we aren't going to be completely critical of someone or some situation if it doesn't go according to plan.

I feel like all this talk of rankings and miniscule aspects of gameplay is really taking the game in the wrong direction. We should all be enjoying the time that we're spending in game.

Forgive any wrong words as this was typed on a phone. I would love to discuss this with someone from the competitive end of the spectrum though.

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Nail on the head enf.

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

I just want to see the text log from that game, because every person in that game I've spoken to hasn't said jack about a warning, official or otherwise. Without that, he can't be arguing with an admin, and with it being his first time on a TPG server he's not exactly likely to know who's an admin in the first place so it'd have to be an official warning for it to mean anything, not just the admin saying over VOIP to tone it down or something.

In CS:S, if he was slayed, that constitutes as a warning....I dunno if he was or not...but a slay does count as a warning. Just clarifying.

Originally Posted by Guyver

This.


We have people complain about lag all the time....as it's been said, there's a difference between saying, "Wow...this server is laggy/lagging." and "Fuck this server, it's a laggy piece of shit."

If that is the case then why didn't I get banned, from TPG altogether, when I made my uproar about the BC2 servers and saying, more or less, just that (without the laggy part). Was it because I came here about it? Because I was pretty heated against the actual rules of TPG and made some direct attacks.