Thread: Wait...

Guys and Gals -

Here's the issue - and we all need to simmer down and get over our own petty shit. Like every other game L4D has to have it's moment of drama. I guess this was ours.

I have never done this before - but think it is more than worth it. The following is the directive sent to all of the L4D admins:

Originally Posted by iravedic

The list itself is a symptom of a potentially larger problem that has been brewing for awhile. We as admins have to show leadership in stomping out ANY pros vs joes sentiment that may be fermenting in the player base. As an admin your job and mine is to take the teams presented and make the most of them - do you best to balance the games and help encourage, teach and support all of the players who join our servers or your game.


As admins we should be inclusive, rather than exclusive, in the games in which we participate.

This message applies to both the List thread and BT's thread. L4D as we play it at TPG is different - we play almost exclusively with our friends. This makes it that much more important for each of us to leave our egos at the door.

Enough of the bullshit drama - I'm going to play a game.

Originally Posted by Bunni

either way man, the thread was will well on its way down the hill heading for "fuck-you exchange blvd.", i'd even would have locked it at page 6

Oh i agree, some other arguments got started and that wasn't the point of the thread. Everything you said was correct. I never named anyone I was giving a heads up and other people got flustered for whatever reason. I edited my post because I didn't want the drama that would follow, not because I would get in trouble. I could care less...
I WILL SPEAK MY MIND. On a more serious note, if a shot is taken at me I will respond. Dipping out the thread now...

I think knee had a good idea with the list in a way, because when evening teams and keeping it fair, it is hard to estimate ones skill level when you have never played with them. I think it was presented in a judgemental way, and if a another list is created I think it should created by the l4d2 admins together. Also I think by making it known that he made the list minorly outed him, when the situation couldve been handled through PM's.

It makes perfect sense to say that the admin banning Hawkins (I believe) had his admin right to do so, and I was not there on that day to say otherwise, plus the fact that the rules aren't clear cut for the reason of making being an admin easier, but I just wanted clarification. Hell, that was what this whole thread was made for, and I am glad to have had so many great responses. Things have been made a lot more clear to me and I appreciate it all.

I personally didn't have a problem with a list (not that I saw the list itself). Then again, I know I would be towards the bottom anyways so maybe that's why.

DRAMA DRAMA EVERYWHERE

Ha I missed a lot of drama. An argument about L4D competitiveness vs fun? And I'm not leading the charge for one side or another? MADNESS

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

No, This! Is! Sparta!

Couldn't resist

I couldn't either

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

Roflmao....saved.

I feel like I should make a better one with less white around the outline, but honestly it was just a quick shop