admin mistake

**~~Mr_Rager~~** · 03-30-12, 01:35 AM

Lee calling, called an upper split. Lee CALLED for the awper (me) to hang out outside and control outside. The rush failed, I get several kills and turn the round into a 1v1 and just about had bomb and a chance to win a round and was slayed. I was told to follow the call and Lee spoke up in mm1 and stated I was, that he instructed me to hang outside.

I don't know who the admin was but they are in the screen. I asked for an apology, it's obvious they made a mistake since the caller stood up for me. If the admin was on ct and didn't know the call - I understand it looks like I wasn't but at least acknowledge your mistake and give a simple apology or sorry. If the admin was a terrorist than that's unacceptable as you didn't even know the call! I asked for an apology that could have been in @ so no one would know your identity. This didn't happen and instead I was kicked from the server.

**iravedic** · 03-30-12, 05:35 PM

I was there - but did not slay you. As to your actions after the slay you just about got banned for disrupting the game. This is the proper forum to address any complaint you have with an admin action. However, you went on and on and on about the issue - totally unacceptable.

You were not kicked by an admin - you were kicked for a reserved slot.

Everyone wait for the admin in question to give his side of events.

**~~Mr_Rager~~** · 03-30-12, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by iravedic

I was there - but did not slay you. As to your actions after the slay you just about got banned for disrupting the game. This is the proper forum to address any complaint you have with an admin action. However, you went on and on and on about the issue - totally unacceptable.

You were not kicked by an admin - you were kicked for a reserved slot.

Everyone wait for the admin in question to give his side of events.

Mar 30, 2012 1:24:47 am

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he was listening

Mar 30, 2012 1:24:51 am

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[ﻩﺩﻨﺸﻜ] lee[mhm]

why slay

Mar 30, 2012 1:24:52 am

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i was listening

Mar 30, 2012 1:25:00 am

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do i get an apology?

Mar 30, 2012 1:25:07 am

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lee calling and he even stated i was following

Mar 30, 2012 1:25:48 am

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[ﻩﺩﻨﺸﻜ] lee[mhm]

i told him to go outside

Mar 30, 2012 1:25:50 am

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no i was to hold outside with awp

Mar 30, 2012 1:25:54 am

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you need to listen

Mar 30, 2012 1:25:56 am

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lee is calling

Mar 30, 2012 1:26:02 am

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i deserve an apology

Mar 30, 2012 1:26:12 am

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our caller is saying i followed

Mar 30, 2012 1:26:18 am

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you fucked us out of a round

Only thing I'm missing in the chat logs are the @ disagree with Lee and I about me following the call. Apparently he knew the call better than the caller? In the log you can see that just before 1:25:48 Lee and I both responded to an @ after chat was dead for over 30 seconds. I then had 5 msg's in 10 seconds still defending myself and 2 more messages over a 20 second span afterwards. That's not on and on and distrubted the round at all.

I've been slayed accidently or mistakenly before but every time the admin had quickly acklowedged their mistake and apologized. I've never suspiciously been slayed when about to win a round only to have the whole team tell the admin of his mistake and said admin sticking to his point I was not following the call when the caller is sticking up for me as well.

The only thing unacceptable ira is that it's gotten this far. A simple "my bad" or "sorry" is just to much to ask for?

**~~Mr_Rager~~** · 04-04-12, 01:57 PM

Can't turn a coward into a man. It's almost been a week and still no response. Will TPG look into this at all? I didn't get the apology I was looking for but I was still abused by said admin for an unjust slay with a bs reasoning. I have my suspicions on who said admin was but I think he's avoiding this topic as he was a terrorist and was enforcing a call that he didn't even know.

**SenSeiFAR** · 04-04-12, 04:50 PM

I'll post as a witness.

You were making a huge scene, about a slay, and that can easily lead to a ban.

Disrupting the server is not tolerated at all.

Then you got kicked for reserve slot reservation, if you weren't, you'd be banned.

The admin was nice enough not to web ban you either.

It's good you brought it to the forums, but your language and use of words is not helping your case. I'd suggest you hang on, while the admin who did slay you, handles this.

That one slay, does not change how you play on the server now or later, so don't worry so much about it.

**~~Mr_Rager~~** · 04-04-12, 05:43 PM

Huge scene? 3 posts directly following a slay. Then 3 more post defending myself from the @ message in which Lee posted his third message stating I was following. Then I had 3 "rant" messages all in a 20 sec window. Man how did the server not crash or all the player base not leave with that hefty distraction I was making.

As for not effecting further play; you're right. I won't argue with that. However, you were in server when it happened, you know that was a big round for t side nuke and what happened in chat after the slay? 3 messages by the caller saying I followed, snide comments form the terrorist saying "you were slayed because you were about to win the round", and multiple @ messages stating to follow the call and to listen to the call. My 9 total message were a "huge scene"?

Nice enough the admin didn't ban me? I'll recall the events since you may not remember:

Slay, 2 comments from the caller saying why/he was listening and 3 from me (2 of which defending myself and 1 asking for an apology).

30secs of dead chat @ comes on again and says "learn to listen to the call, staying outside isn't a split" in which the caller again pointed out the admin's mistake, I made 3 more posts defending myself and another post saying I deserved an apology.

10secs pass and I make 2 rant style posts within 4 secs of each other.

Lucky I didn't get ban for a huge scene? I'm not the one who mistakenly slayed a member about to win a round. I'm not the one who didn't listen to the caller's (a respected member of the community and regular) 2 posts about how the call was being followed and the uproar of the opposing team. I'm not the one who after 30 seconds of dead chat made another post about "listen to the call" along with a message of what the player was doing with what I PERCEIVED to be the call.

Thanks for enlightening me there SenSei, I know see how this is all my fault.

**SenSeiFAR** · 04-04-12, 07:50 PM

Sarcasm won't help. I replied only cause you felt like you were done wrong.

You have been here long enough. We play a lot seriously than most communities, and during the match someone talking about anything other the game is considered to be spam or unnecessary.

I'll inform the admin, hang on man.

**MeBad** · 04-06-12, 10:30 PM

I was the admin that slayed you for not following the call. Lee was the caller and the call was to split A, first group outside, second group inside with bomb delaying. Lee eplicitly said to the people outside to get to A as quickly as possible. I heard no mention of hang back with the awp or do your own thing. I heard the caller say to the people outside get your ass to A as quickly as possible. After the team died I noticed you hanging back and taking your sweet time pushing all the way around to heaven. This was not the call, so you were slayed. Follow the call and you won't get slayed, it is that simple.

**~~Mr_Rager~~** · 04-06-12, 11:05 PM

Hey MeBad, firstly I want to apologize about this thread. I came off very arrogant and immature at times with some of the comments I've made. It was a heat of the moment post and many of the replies were read directly after others post and I felt like I was still on the defensive. So I do want to apologize up front about the comments made in this thread.

However, I'm confused by your post. I understand you didn't hear the awper hold outside portion of the call, but it was made and is evident by our caller (Lee) stating so. Your post just goes to show you were still basing all your actions of the round on a call you either didn't hear or didn't understand.

My slow work towards heaven may not have been scripted by Lee but surely you don't expect me to hold outside the entire time without making an attempt to get the bomb. I'm sorry but I still feel you were in the wrong for the slay.

**MeBad** · 04-07-12, 04:51 AM

I understood the call perfectly. Split A from outside to mini, and delay inside - if you are outside get there as quickly as possible. I never heard anyone tell the awp to hold outside. If "awp hold outside" was called late then it is possible that I didn't hear it as I was rushing outside and ate a couple of flashes. If that is the case then I do apologize
As far as expectations, this is what I expect you and everybody that plays at TPG to do. Follow the call. And the call was to get to A through mini as quickly as possible from outside. You took your time and went a different route. Since I never heard Lee say anything different, I can only assume that you did not follow the call.