Sambo

**SAMBO** · 06-26-06, 03:22 PM

My job on TsT is an awper. It is part of the game. Get over it.

And keep sending me trash pm's Grey. It just makes things look worse on you. Thanks :)

**BigHub** · 06-26-06, 03:22 PM

I would suggest everyone stop talking now, before high admins get really mad. This whole thing is under investigation, logs are being read, and the whole thing is being discussed.... don't worry, it will be handled.

**greymata** · 06-26-06, 03:27 PM

ty hub. thats all i wanted.

it was funny sam.

**sjt17** · 06-26-06, 03:55 PM

Whats silly is, is that all of these discussions have taken place before. Over and over again....and then over again.

Since you're angry Grey it seems you've been unable to locate those posts. Same goes for you Sam....so I'll do it for you.

Take a long, slow, sober read.

This forum is not for mud slinging, or argument, but for discussion of serious admin abuses.

Keep the language clean, keep your thoughts clear.

Those uninvolved should tread lightly.

http://texasteamplayers.com/index.ph...938&highlight=

http://texasteamplayers.com/index.ph...540&highlight=

**...bigdog...** · 06-26-06, 05:17 PM

As sjt said......

you guys can keep this going, and those with the power to judge will do so. Yes, there are some logs that back both sides. However, considering the circumstances of teh last few hours/days.....it seems odd to bring this up now, grey.

a one round delay for you to get an awp vote is hardly unacceptable. FOr the issue with your team doing poorly........what exactly would you wish us to do? Are you specifically saying that only when SAMBO himself switches sides.....THEN the teams are fair?

so now....you're not wanting fair teams....you just want SAMBO to play on your team? Do you honestly think one man can make that much difference in a hopeless situation? Hell, even putting me on a team full of losers isn't going to force the win. It might make the other team pay a higher price for their wins.........but demanding the admin to switch teams to make a point isn't worth addressing.

If there were players on the CT team that were doing well.....well enough that they should have been switched......then fair enough. If the stats of the T team were ALL pathetic, meaning there were absolute NO good people on T.....fair enough.

I certainly doubt that the entire T team sucked. In fact, I can nearly guarnatee that as the skills break down, just like they always do.....there's 25% skill on either team. The only imbalance is that one team has 90% teamplay, and the other is still at 25%.

The solution to the stack then wouldn't be to switch good players....but instead to switch teamplayers. Teamplayers like odawwg, skervy, bwd, etc. guys that don't have stellar stats or KD's.

So......exaclty what would have made it fair?.....basically, that's my point.

continue.

**greymata** · 06-26-06, 10:25 PM

true, a one round delay to ask for an awp vote IS unacceptable, but is it acceptable to start awping italy on t the second round? any noob that comes on the server would do this, but for an admin? someone who is supposed to uphold the law and police the server should be a fair player. at least rush with the awp instead of camping house and sniping apts! that wouldnt be so bad. and how is that anything that could be considered team play?

to answer your question, there is only a few things that would have been fair, one in particular: addressing the stacked issue and not ignoring it.

yes, i admit it does seem like i'm just trying to get back at him for the other situation, but all that that situation did was make me realize i wasnt insane for thinking sambo was capable of this. if you check the records on the whole thing with bravo, sam, and i, you will see that i wasnt jumping the gun. teams seriously needed to be looked at, and a vote was needed.

i know there is a chain of command, and i know that bravo couldnt have done anything about the situation. honestly, i know nothing will be done about this issue. it has been an issue for too long now. but i wont go quietly. i will fight to keep this server the way i found and fell in love with it; team based and fair.

ONE LAST THING: for the record, i didnt sling mud or talk shit here in the forums until sambo said something about me being high. i wanted a reasonable conclusion. Do you really want admins that act like that?

**Agent** · 06-26-06, 10:54 PM

???

**Agent** · 06-26-06, 10:55 PM

yes, sambos comment was out of line and immature.

**EliteMaster** · 06-26-06, 11:01 PM

Yeah I have seen the Teamstacking thing increase a bundle. Every time I get on the server all I see is Teamstacking... So I go to the other side, to even it up a bit, and then they bring out the awps. And it's pretty fucked up if you ask me.

**scuba_steve** · 06-26-06, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by greymata

true, a one round delay to ask for an awp vote IS unacceptable, but is it acceptable to start awping italy on t the second round? any noob that comes on the server would do this, but for an admin? someone who is supposed to uphold the law and police the server should be a fair player. at least rush with the awp instead of camping house and sniping apts! that wouldnt be so bad. and how is that anything that could be considered team play?

Sorry for butting in, But i believe this is relevant.

true, a one round delay to ask for an awp vote IS unacceptable, but is it acceptable to start awping italy on t the second round? any noob that comes on the server would do this, but for an admin? someone who is supposed to uphold the law and police the server should be a fair player.

A one round delay is acceptable

As for awping on the second round, what is wrong with that if you can afford it, you do whatever it takes for your team to win.

And when was it against the rules to awp? How does awping affect his policing the server and upholding the law?

at least rush with the awp instead of camping house and sniping apts! that wouldnt be so bad. and how is that anything that could be considered team play?

Ok, if your terrorist on italy, the objective of the map is to camp the hosties and prevent ct's from getting them Why should he rush with an awp when he can do his job better at the house, thus helping complete the objective. And completing the objective is what teamplay is about