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Thread: I felt abused...
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06-04-08, 10:38 PM #1
I felt abused...
Hey all, I think many of you know me, and know I respect the server, players, and admins.
They do a hell of a job.
MY PROBLEM:
While playing in TTP I was kicked for not squading up. BUT, here's what led up to it and I believe is the true reason and also the basis that I feel the Admin abused his powers...
I was sniping down onto Main (first outer base not the uncappable) when (after getting a couple of kills) thier commander carbombed me... (nice shot by the way).
Upon respawn I came back in Special Forces kit and proceeded to thier airfield / uncappable. Blew up the UAV and the Scanner. Drove my car around (trying to get a splat on the windshield) but happened to be on the chopper pad when it respawned and got killed by it.
I then respawned and said in All Chat: Car bomb me again It cost you a UAV and a Scanner BWOOOHAHAHAHA <-- just like that but all caps.
Next thing i know, i was kicked for not being in a squad.
I was in a squad at the time. I always squad up, but there (as I could tell) was a bug. Because as the map started, I was already in squad 1 and couldn't leave it.
I even took the commander position to see if it would take me out of the squad and after becoming commander I resigned immediately. It still showed me in squad 1 and clicking the Leave button did nothing. It also showed the 7 man squad.
I couldn't hear the squad or talk to them, so I figured it had to be the bug.
On that basis, I probably didn't show as being in a squad due to the bug. BUT!
That was only an excuse to kick me. At the time I was kicked there were MULTIPLE people not in squads. During the time (1 min) I needed to wait, the lowest the server was at was the 59/60 due to me being kicked. Thus, nobody else was kicked.
Upon re-entering the server I looked at the side I was on and there were still 5 people not squaded up and I typed up my explination (without being an ass about it) and let them know I had been bugged and Sorry. (the sorry just so they would know I wasn't just talkin smack)... I then told everyone that There are 5 people not squadded up... KICK THEM... of course there were no kicks.
So: ABUSE: Kicking me (and only me) for not squading up was not the true reason for the kick, and if it was, then more than just me should have been kicked. Should have "cleaned house" of all non squadded if that had been the TRUE reason.
If I was really kicked because I apparently got on someones nerves and they had admin powers... This person should lose those powers permanantly or be suspended for whatever time you deem fair. (you being the admins)
Thanks for your time. Enjoy the games :)
Below is the Player list of those in server at the time. (06/04/2008 approx 10:15 eastern)
[img width=750 height=562]http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/41f03867799f8dd211e5d636e0546613d445576d.png[/img]
[img width=750 height=562]http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/0ccb500088b73ded5a35349b72ddb7878decf162.png[/img]Heheh... They Didn't Even See Me... Woof!
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06-04-08, 11:41 PM #2
Re: I felt abused...
Originally Posted by HooDaMUNK
Next thing i know, i was kicked for not being in a squad.
I was in a squad at the time. I always squad up, but there (as I could tell) was a bug. Because as the map started, I was already in squad 1 and couldn't leave it.
BUT! That was only an excuse to kick me.
At the time I was kicked there were MULTIPLE people not in squads. During the time (1 min) I needed to wait, the lowest the server was at was the 59/60 due to me being kicked. Thus, nobody else was kicked.
Upon re-entering the server I looked at the side I was on and there were still 5 people not squaded up and I typed up my explination (without being an ass about it) and let them know I had been bugged and Sorry. (the sorry just so they would know I wasn't just talkin smack)... I then told everyone that There are 5 people not squadded up... KICK THEM... of course there were no kicks.
Code:[21:06:49] Captain_James_Kirk -> Good job so far WARNING!!! ..... You are Subject to be ..... K I C K E D ..... if not in a Squad. Create or Join a ..... SQUAD ..... please. [21:09:37] {HRD} {DR}HooDaMUNK -> LOL PATHETIC COMMANDER [21:11:45] {HRD} {DR}HooDaMUNK -> LOL CAR DROP ME AGAIN LMFAO COST YOU A UAV AND SCANNER [21:12:07] BjornTuroc -> Adn I need the ammo for all the C4 KICKING!!! {HRD} {DR}HooDaMUNK Make sure you Create or Join a ..... SQUAD ..... when you reconnect. [21:16:43] {HRD} {DR}HooDaMUNK -> AND THE ADMIN THAT KICKED ME.... just so you know, I WAS in a squad ... but it was a BUG that had me as 7th PLAYER [21:16:51] {HRD} {DR}HooDaMUNK -> SSRY BOUT THAT .......You are Subject to be K I C K E D....if not in a SQUAD....Create or Join a SQUAD...please [21:17:12] {HRD} {DR}HooDaMUNK -> FFunny how I WAS THE ONLY ONE that was kicked BWOOOHAHAHAHAHAHA [21:17:46] {HRD} {DR}HooDaMUNK -> ... hmmm 5 PEOPLE on this SIDE not SQUADDED!!!!!! KICK EM :)
Nearly 900 hours of play time...
42 hours on TTP alone...
A member of a resident clan...
Connected for almost an hour...
Multiple warnings issued...
Multiple minutes passed with no explanation and no action...
And you're going to sit there and tell me you were abused? You've played this server FAR TOO LONG to be able to say you don't know that EVERY ROUND at team swap you lose your squad, and the FIRST THING you should be doing when the round starts is getting into a squad. If you see you're still in a squad without having joined one explicitly, you have a squad bug, and just say so in the chat. There have been multiple times in the past where people have mentioned it (even some HRD guys), and they get through just fine. We are not here to kick people just because we can, we do it to keep things running smoothly.
For what it's worth, I apologize for kicking you while you were bugged, but I completely fail to see where you have been abused at all in this entire thing.
Draco
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06-04-08, 11:53 PM #3
Re: I felt abused...
As I don't have a reserved slot on BF2 yet I tend to not disconnect when I get the trapped in squad bug. When I do get it I send a message in all chat with spaces in front of it every time explaining my situation, and do my best to be a useful smurf. I've never been booted afterwards, but wouldn't complain if I was. If the admins kicked all unsquaded players at once, then people who had just connected or left squads would be included... That's not done.
The admins here do a damn fine job, and I wouldn't doubt for a second that you were kicked solely for being unsquaded given the circumstances. Just let 'em know next time man!
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06-05-08, 01:12 AM #4Re: I felt abused...
Admins can not see things like squad bugs Hooda. The admin did no wrong by kicking you when they see an unsquaded player such as that. You knew that there was something screwy and you should have done your best to fix it. which you did partially. Admins can kick unsquaded players. The bug you were suffering you could not hear your squad mates? They can't hear you.
How could that be teamplay? Come on Hooda, you know better. I see no abuse of admin powers here.
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06-05-08, 01:17 AM #5
Re: I felt abused...
Hood there is no admin abuse here. You were bugged and that is that. You should have just come back in game and went about your business. Telling the admins how to do their job is bad form.
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06-05-08, 10:29 PM #6
Re: I felt abused...
I don't see how it is an admins fault, it is something that just happened through no fault of anyone. Your response in chat though is not so good, I have seen people banned for that because that is not acceptable ingame on this server as far as I know. So I think you ended up lucky.
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06-06-08, 01:20 AM #7
Re: I felt abused...
I don't wanna hear another squad bug Excuse ever. You know it, when you are squad bugged. Disconnect and Reconnect, before we do it for you.
You are a resident member here. Never an excuse as to why you are not in a SQUAD.
Also, I think you insulted just about every admin here.
No excuses, if you are unsquaded, You will be removed and the Admins have been instructed to do so.
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06-06-08, 09:01 PM #8
Re: I felt abused...
K all, heard it loud and clear. (though Draco coulda worded it better ... and not been an ass) FUCK... just wanted to say that :) haven't used it in forums for ttp.
Anyhow...
There were others not squadded. thats the only reason i posted this. Thinking it was unfair.
I've NEVER had one of those FUCKING (just wanted to say again, thanks Draco) squad bugs before. In almost 900 hours i've never had one. My appologies if it has caused any disruption or problems. It was new to me.
Hope you all have an awesome day.
(no i wont be reading any further replies to this).
Thanks all, enjoy. :) see yaz on the servers.
NOTE: I would NEVER insult or presume to insult an admin, no matter what. That's why I posted here. You all do an awesome job and the server is great. Please: Even Draco, don't think i meant to insult anyone. I only posted what I saw from my end. Not yours.Heheh... They Didn't Even See Me... Woof!
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06-06-08, 09:37 PM #9
Re: I felt abused...
Originally Posted by HooDaMUNK
Also, we constantly kick players that are not squaded up, so don't say we didn't kick anybody else, because we do, all day long and all night long.
Coming in here with your panties in a wad because an Admin did his job and removed you, to tell us you were abused is absurd and dissapointing. You just waltzed up in the Admin abuse thread and stated that you were singled out and abused.
Not a favorable thing to do to the Community that supports you, your clan, the admins and the servers.
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