Ridiculous

**FragRaptor** · 09-27-09, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Awp votes are there to take care of awp whores. Admins will also switch awpers to the loosing team to help them out.

As far as the music. If you type settings you can turn the music off in game, why should it be the admins problem if you choose to have music on the server?

Well if the server votes for there to be awp whores why do it again? The server decided is what is stated what an awp vote is passed, why not when it is declined?

**laggyNgroovy** · 09-27-09, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

As far as the music. If you type settings you can turn the music off in game, why should it be the admins problem if you choose to have music on the server?

Careful on that view point. Better response would have been "are you aware you can disable the in game music?"

It's the admin's problem because whether or not the player knew of this setting, the timing of the music and the repetition was suspect.

Wow, how many admin abuse claims are you going to file?

The music was played once or twice by another admin because I flanked the T's before they got into B and knifed 3 of them. So the music wasn't played to "get you killed" as you are accusing me of.

I see it as a single claim and coming from one of our own regulars I would take it more to heart. Even more so with another regular giving witness.

Why is the music even being messed with in the 1st place? It should be pretty much on autopilot. If players can't control the music, then admins should be pretty much leaving it alone as well. When audio is part of the game, essentially music spamming is trying to deny one of the players senses.

The music was played by "some other admin" once or twice, but MudStalker and Imisnew are under the impression it happened a bit more than that. "some other admin" would be...... ?

**Mudstalker** · 09-27-09, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by fly351

The music was played once or twice by another admin because I flanked the T's before they got into B and knifed 3 of them. So the music wasn't played to "get you killed" as you are accusing me of.

The music was played once or twice? We all know how long the knife music is right? Ok, this is exactly what was going on while the music was playing.

We push out into B, I'm immediately flashed so I run to the end of the catwalk and hide in the corner, I then throw a nade at the CT's coming out of connector, I'm blind again, THEN the music starts, I take a couple shots at the guy outside of connector, I jump off the catwalk and run into the site (music still going), I check site (the corner, stare at the upper corner for a second or two incase someone peeks and check the little hidey hole inbetween the boxes), a majority of my team is taken down at this point (music still going), I peek out of site and see a couple guys coming out of connector and another to my right, I repeek and take the guy to the right down, peek again and take out one of the guys rushing me from connector, I then run to the far site box and instead of staying in a position and waiting for them to come to me I'm forced to repeatedly peek because the music is STILL playing, I peek and kill another, peek the other side of the box, peek the OTHER side and kill another, at this point one has gotten so close I couldn't see him with my small peeks and couldn't hear where he's running because the music is STILL playing, he then peeks to my right and I take cover behind the box, we swap shots for a bit, then eventually I'm taken down. All of this time the music is STILL playing.

All of this didn't happen in the 8-10 secs (if that) it would take to play the music twice, or even the amount of time it would take to play the music three times for the three knives. It was repeatedly played until the end of the round. It had been repeated three times already while I was sitting in the actual site. I wasn't "accusing" anyone of playing it puprosefully to get me killed, I did imply it was a pretty big coincidence it was me that was alive. But I did accuse the admin (not fly, admin) of disrupting gameplay, not just for myself but for the guys against me who, because of the music, didn't hear me run to the far site box and died because of it when I peeked out.

As for the votes. After it'd already been decided by the PLAYERS not to restrict the first time, you thought you needed another two? Honestly, I've never seen that done before.

**fly351** · 09-27-09, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Mudstalker

The music was played once or twice? We all know how long the knife music is right?

Obviously you don't. The Kill Bill sound track that is played during a knife kill is 12 seconds long, check the sound file if you don't believe me... Once again, I didn't play the song so I can't exactly say the number of times that it was played. I was on CT and there were 2 admins on T so one of them played the song.

And yes multiple votes get thrown up on maps ALL the time. Cbbl is a very CT sided map and both teams were using way to many awps to make the game fun. As I have already stated, I made the decision to throw up the vote more than once because I didn't want the server to loss connections which would of happened if it continued the way it was heading.

**Fajita!** · 09-27-09, 04:23 PM

But what's the point of even having a vote if you throw it up multiple times until it gets restricted?

If it is up to the admins to throw up 3 awp votes in a map until it gets restricted, why can't you just ban it at will? Beause that is pretty much what is happening

For reference: http://www.texasteamplayers.com/index.php?topic=23219.0

**~~Syrringe~~** · 09-27-09, 04:29 PM

I agree with the thread title.

If it passes, then you never see it again.

But if it fails....well, here we are.

**DancingCorpse** · 09-27-09, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Fajita!

But what's the point of even having a vote if you throw it up multiple times until it gets restricted?

Exactly, at that point why not just give the admins a tool to insta restrict the AWP or the Auto instantly without any vote? A vote is a vote, and TTP has always stood by that as long as I have been here.

Originally Posted by Syrringe

I agree with the thread title.

If it passes, then you never see it again.

But if it fails....well, here we are.

Exactly, a vote can happen more than once, but back to back until it passes for sure? If it doesn't pass the first time, let 2 or 3 rounds pass and then do it again, people will be more aggravated by the AWPs and more likely to vote to restrict.

**Fajita!** · 09-27-09, 04:34 PM

Even 2-3 rounds is a ridiculously short time, I'd say at least 15-20 rounds later when the server population has changed up enough to get different results

**fly351** · 09-27-09, 09:21 PM

Thanks for the input and for giving me the opportunity to improve. I now see how I could have handled this situation better.

**Kraker Jak** · 09-27-09, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by fly351

Thanks for the input and for giving me the opportunity to improve. I now see how I could have handled this situation better.

Takes a man to admit when he is wrong, and usually it's always our admins who do. Fly, you are a great admin.

For future reference, If the awp is being abused, and the vote does not pass to restrict, Do not be surprised if you are moved teams to help the loosing team. I would hate for you to call abuse about that.