Kickhappy

**Arreo** · 12-22-09, 05:49 PM

Lets look at the whole log shall we?

3 d00mbird 1 Team [20:56:42] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXO crap
3 d00mbird 1 Team [20:56:49] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXsoryy budy, darn tree

15 {HRD} visuvius 2 Team [21:00:42] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMdoom can i have it
33 Spyder757 1 Team [21:00:50] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMsomeone else command
3 d00mbird 2 Team [21:01:25] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXFACK, im so sorry
15 {HRD} visuvius 2 Team [21:01:27] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXhey doombird you suck thx
15 {HRD} visuvius 2 Team [21:01:33] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXremember the part where i asked if i could fly
3 d00mbird 2 Team [21:01:34] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMsarn, that was unbelievably stupid
15 {HRD} visuvius 2 Team [21:01:39] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMno worries
3 d00mbird 2 Team [21:01:42] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMhey vis, stfu
3 d00mbird 2 Team [21:01:47] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMok, nvm then
15 {HRD} visuvius 2 Team [21:01:48] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMoh ok then suck the dick
3 d00mbird 2 Team [21:01:52] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMno dtfu to nvm
15 {HRD} visuvius 2 Team [21:01:53] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMfly into a tree agin
3 d00mbird 2 Team [21:02:17] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMim good ith the helis, but that tree nagged me from no where

3 d00mbird 1 Squad [21:21:04] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXkamakazeee
15 {HRD} visuvius 1 Team [21:21:06] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXtoo close
3 d00mbird 1 Squad [21:21:16] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADot a air kill

3 d00mbird 1 Team [21:34:53] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXLOL
22 AFGkillaz 1 Squad [21:34:56] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXwow!
3 d00mbird 1 Team [21:34:57] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXkDamn, sorry m8
15 {HRD} visuvius 1 Global [21:35:21] *§1DEAD§0*
3 d00mbird 1 Squad [21:35:27] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADgot me a sniper
15 {HRD} visuvius 1 Global [21:35:49] you did that on purpose doom bird Because I said you area horrible pilot
15 {HRD} visuvius 1 Global [21:36:13]
3 d00mbird 1 Squad [21:36:14] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADthey have our heliu
15 {HRD} visuvius 1 Global [21:36:22] Why did you TK me DOOMBIRD>
15 {HRD} visuvius 2 Global [21:38:18] *§1DEAD§0* Doombird, we dont TK on this server. Even if we are frustrated s horrible pilots.
3 d00mbird 2 Team [21:38:50] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMwait, i hvent tkd

47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:51:26] *§1DEAD§0*vissuvius,why did u kick me?
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:52:03] *§1DEAD§0*visuvius
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:52:41] *§1DEAD§0*You cant just kick people out of hand
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:52:46] *§1DEAD§0*you had no reason
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:52:53] *§1DEAD§0*I did NOT teamkill
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:53:06] *§1DEAD§0*And i didt tk for a vehicle either
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:53:34] *§1DEAD§0*I spent the entire last map in my own blackhawk, and at no point did anyone even go near it
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:53:49] *§1DEAD§0*and this map i spawned and was kicked
47 d00mbird 1 Global [21:53:53] *§1DEAD§0*SO says orry
47 d00mbird 2 Global [21:56:26] *§1DEAD§0*visuvius, im still waiting for an apology
10 [IRON] c|everdevil 1 Global [21:56:37] *§1DEAD§0*doombird let it go
47 d00mbird 2 Global [21:56:41] *§1DEAD§0*nooooooo
47 d00mbird 2 Global [21:56:45] *§1DEAD§0*it was mean
47 d00mbird 2 Global [21:56:49] *§1DEAD§0* and hurtful
47 d00mbird 2 Global [21:56:53] deeeep hurtful
47 d00mbird 2 Global [21:57:17] broke my heart it did

-1 Admin None ServerMessage [22:01:09] WARNING!!! d00mbird Squad Up Now and Follow Orders on your TEAM !!!
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [22:01:19] WARNING!!! d00mbird Squad Up Now and Follow Orders on your TEAM !!!
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [22:02:35] KICKING!!! d00mbird Next time you join this server. Squad Up and Support your TEAM !!!

47 d00mbird 2 Global [22:12:49] *§1DEAD§0*u guys gotta start g warnigns b4 kicing people

So what is your explanation of those chat logs?

Also, you were in the server for the better part of 10 minutes (by my read of the logs) before you were kicked for not being in a squad. That's pretty standard and IMO fair.

**The Freak** · 12-22-09, 07:09 PM

Visu is the SL... He asked for the chopper.... I jump in with Visu... In Squad we chat... "Gee I hope this guy can fly".... and BOOM! We are dead... All for one bad guy?? (I was in the back with my wrench out and couldn't see.)

So let me explain how it works... The number above a players name... It means they are a Squad leader. If there is a pack of blue names with the SL... That is usually the squad... When a SL can drop his squad over a flag... We can take it faster...
I'm really trying to understand how taking a chopper and ramming the enemy with it equates to teamwork?
At this point I'd be thanking my lucky stars that it was just a kick...
Capish?
The Freak

**The Freak** · 12-22-09, 07:10 PM

P.S....
Merry Christmas! ;D
The Freak

**deathgodusmc** · 12-22-09, 07:24 PM

Just to point out because i did not notice anyone else did. You dont have to get a warning for anything. The rules as stated scroll the top of the screen. It's up to you to pay attention. No one else can do that for you. The admins aren't there to hold your hand while you learn the game. They will teach as will many others if you get into a squad and ask for help with something.

**doombird** · 12-22-09, 10:22 PM

Okay for all this jaz,

Quote one:
All this is completely unrelated to anything, I was trying to cover my squad on the ground with one gunner, was flying low and sideways, hit a tree and was forced to land in a bad place, I apologized for my mistake.

Quote two
I picked up a helicopter, waited for people to hop in (beggining of the map) and didn't realize he'd asked for it, and wouldn't have given it to him, since I had got it first and wanted to get it to my squad. It filled up fast so I figured I'd help them out and drop them near a base. En route I went under apc fire or something and ended up hitting a treeline in the heli completely by accident. It was busted up, and they could have bailed at any point, and it was a simple error, not "sucking at flying" as vissuvius kindly put it. Id apologized and saw vis insulted my flying skills so told him to stfu, I hadn't realized he said no worries, so i said nvm to the stfu. I'd like to apologize to vis for his taking offence, it was a simple case of chat lag.

Quote 3
Kamikazee was a kill of a gunship (enemy), and got an airkill was refering to that.

Quote 4
The beggining with lol wow and sorry m8 was an accidental air collision with a friendly gunship, hardly a tk, I was flying a bulky blackhawk low to the ground, and he was in a chopper, it happens, and blackhawks don't maneuver the best.
As for the tk of vissuvius, that is a complete unknown. I squashed 2 snipers that had parachuted into our airbase, one was a confirmed enemy kill, the other I thought friendlys got. As far as I was concerned they were enemy. I was given an order to kill snipers by my squad leader, you convienently left out the part where i typed to the squad that there was an enemy sniper below me. At that point he could have typed (if it was him) friendly. After trying to ram I circled and seen he was dead, and since i didnt get a kill notice I figured a friendly got him, since i had notified my squad.
Then your admin, as you can clearly see, assumed I'd spent the last hour trying to kill him because hed called me a horroble pilot, which had blown over ages ago when I apologized for my stupid mistake. He then kicked me on pretenses of me being a horrible pilot. Very very mature. As you can see I wasn't even aware that I had tk'd anyone. GOd this is getting bothersome, but it is obvious that the admin kicked me out of personal dislike, saying I was frustrated, which was obvious that i was not. I hadn't caught every thing on the text display, since i didnt respond to his VERY belated accusations.

**doombird** · 12-22-09, 10:33 PM

-1 Admin None ServerMessage [22:01:09] WARNING!!! d00mbird Squad Up Now and Follow Orders on your TEAM !!!
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [22:01:19] WARNING!!! d00mbird Squad Up Now and Follow Orders on your TEAM !!!
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [22:02:35] KICKING!!! d00mbird Next time you join this server. Squad Up and Support your TEAM !!!
47 d00mbird 2 Global [22:12:49] *§1DEAD§0*u guys gotta start g warnigns b4 kicing people

May I presume: [HH.MM.SS.]
Which means at 22 hours 1 minute and 9 seconds i was warned, and again in ten seconds.
These warnings don't last even a second in jalabad with 60 people playing, and messages of who killed who flashing by.
And then at 22 hours 2 minutes and 49 seconds i was kicked. This is 1 minute and forty seconds.
Then ten minutes later I relogged and said about pre kick warnings.

In my chat before that I hadn't even spawned. SO I was ingame for minute and forty nine seconds. IMO not fair.

**doombird** · 12-22-09, 10:35 PM

And final note to the freak I would never ram someone with a heli full of friendlies, we crashed because I was trying to escape gunfire.

**Amador +JP2+** · 12-22-09, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by doombird

Then your admin, as you can clearly see, assumed I'd spent the last hour trying to kill him because hed called me a horroble pilot, which had blown over ages ago when I apologized for my stupid mistake. He then kicked me on pretenses of me being a horrible pilot. Very very mature. .... GOd this is getting bothersome, but it is obvious that the admin kicked me out of personal dislike, saying I was frustrated, which was obvious that i was not.

Once more you fail to comprehend. No admin kicked you because you are a horrible pilot. No admin kicked you because of a personal dislike.

Your insinuation that an admin had some personal bias is inane and truly bothersome. It is untrue. As stated earlier, the admins that dispensed the kicks to you did their job. They kicked you for a tk and then kicked you for not squadding up. You had been on the server for a while as Arreo noted and deserved to be kicked for being unsquadded.

It is simple. If you follow the rules, then not a single admin will be kicking you (like you or not). If an admin ever gets out of line, there is an abuse forum you can use to bring it to the attention of those that serve and work at TTP. You are fortunate that your continued questioning of the kick (while in game) didn’t result in a ban which is typically the norm for those that question an admin decision while in game. Bringing it to the forums is the right thing to do. In this case, no admin did you wrong.

However, you continue to make baseless accusations about the admin.

**doombird** · 12-22-09, 10:49 PM

At this point I would like for someone to delete this account, If I can it's beyond me.

I do plan to still play TTP, and don't hold any players in any poor light. Even vissuvius, to whom, If I did indeed tk him, I would like to extend an apology. The first was a crash, not personal, and the second was squashing snipers in the hills around the airstrip, again, not personal. I still think you were to hasty in assuming I'd carry over a grudge, and that just because I aparently squashed you (without you EVER saying anything during multiple failed attempts ???) doesn't mean I have some sort of grudge. And if it was you who rekicked me for not having been in a squad, it was unfair but in your shoes mildly understandable through frustration, after all , how did you think this post started up. XD

What I took for an error on an admins part was merely a misunderstanding, and you may delete this post (hopefully after vissuvius sees what happened.)

Thank you, and merry christmas.