Thread: Favorite Opponent

The reason why I don't like the homewrecker is simply because it ruins the Spy's ability to get rid of an Engineer nest. Imagine this scenario, you get in undetected, you find an Engineer, stab and sap and get out. You tell your team it's clear, then all the sudden you see your sappers destroyed by the Homewrecker. That is infuriating, for your plans to be ruined by a weapon that serves no other purpose but to piss Spies off.

Admit it, if it couldn't destroy Sappers, nobody would use it. It's a weapon that should not be in the game in the first place.

This is how Pyro is to be played

http://www.pldx.com/movie/600/Meet_the_PROro/

It's not his job to do the work of an Engineer, his job is to burn, sear, and combust every single person he meets.

But if you guys want to really go this far, then how about this. How about I gain the ability to hack Sentry Guns, so I can watch it destroy your entire team before it self destructs. Just so it's fair...

Spies have absolutely nothing to complain about, the homewrecker is a niche weapon designed to give engineers a much needed boost. You have to appreciate how dependent the pyro is on the axtinguisher, and giving up a key weapon for the betterment of a (for now) weaker class is about as teamplay as it gets. Boohoo spies now can't lonewolf a sentry nest and expect to always succeed, the engineer is already getting the short end of the stick from soldiers and especially demomen hell even most ubers are used solely to take down sentry guns, the last thing we need is spies being able to take down emplacements singlehandedly.

Engineers need the help.

Yea why would a pyro help out his teammate. Any pyro that helps an engineer is automatically a noob

Originally Posted by LuckyDucky

Engineers need the help.

Engineers have yet to receive an update, that's why it's difficult. I'm going to guess you'll get some pretty awesome stuff here soon enough.

Originally Posted by Cojiro

Yea why would a pyro help out his teammate. Any pyro that helps an engineer is automatically a noob

I never said that, don't put words in my mouth. I said the Homewrecker was unfair because Pyros already have enough advantages against the class. Pyro has been the Spy's Counter since Day 1 and now he can remove sappers too? Am I really the only one of the forums who thinks that's bullshit?

Like lucky said an engineer is the primary target and their sentry gun is more then often easily destroyed. Giving the engineer an extra hand is helpful.

I don't think it's extreme bullshit at all.

It should take two swings, imo. There are plenty of times where an SG would've died from a sapper, but it was left with 20-30 Health because of the Homewrecker, since the Pyro was late to the Party. If the Pyro is there, and sees the stab-sap, and the spy gets away, I think that's fair game. It's when a Pyro appears at 8 of 9 seconds to kill the sapper that I don't think that's fair game.

Originally Posted by Cheshire Cat

It should take two swings, imo. There are plenty of times where an SG would've died from a sapper, but it was left with 20-30 Health because of the Homewrecker, since the Pyro was late to the Party.

Big deal, a scout with a scatter gun could take out a sentry with 30 hp left. When the spy has stabbed the engineer and crippled a sentry to that point the work is already done, and the gun already dead without repair. The engineer's chance to get to his gun in time to repair it is slim at best, but he deserves that chance.