Thread: why are medics shafted by the stats?

Originally Posted by sL!ppY

While medics are shafted to some degree by the stats... the stats are not based purely off of KDR. As far as i know.. they take into account captures.. assists.. and much much more. I think what they dont take into account is healing... and thats where medics lose out.. because instead of kills which are counted.. they are healing.

This is correct. Stats are not based only off of kill:death ratio. ALL of your stats are taken into consideration.

Actually, Sammus, I don't think that's correct. Not on Psychostats. It uses the ELO algorithm to calculate skill, which determines that based on the skill of the person you kill or that killed you.
Psychostats FAQ describes how skill is calculated from kills and deaths:
http://www.psychostats.com/doc/PsychoStats_FAQ
Psychostats forum discussion with some ideas on making it more fair for Medics.
http://www.psychostats.com/forums/in...r&f=32&t=17126

No, Medics are disadvantaged. Every time I mostly play Medic I drop in skill pretty significantly. Still, I mostly play Medic (as evidenced by my deaths as Medic under Roles) and am currently ranked 103. I'll be pretty ecstatic if I can ever break top 100.

Originally Posted by agentazn303

Medics dont need stats to let them know they own. :D

:)

Stats are just something cool to look at once in awhile to see one way in which you compare to other players on the server.

It would be cool if medic stats were adjusted differently, but in the mean time I just like to think I had a small hand in getting all my other teammates that much farther up the ranks :)

-Pulp

Originally Posted by Cojiro

who the hell cares about stats? I can whore up numbers just by having people stand next to my dispenser.

stats are pointless

To answer your question, TTP asks to see your Psychostats when you request a reserved slot, and TTP Clans ask to see your Psychostats when you apply for membership. I'm sure they're understand the skew if you explain that you mostly play Medic, tho.

Also, aside from the anti-Medic bias, the ELO algorithm is actually quite a nifty way to see how well you're playing. They use it in chess to crown grand masters and such.

Originally Posted by heyf00L

Actually, Sammus, I don't think that's correct. Not on Psychostats. It uses the ELO algorithm to calculate skill, which determines that based on the skill of the person you kill or that killed you.
Psychostats FAQ describes how skill is calculated from kills and deaths:
http://www.psychostats.com/doc/PsychoStats_FAQ
Psychostats forum discussion with some ideas on making it more fair for Medics.
http://www.psychostats.com/forums/in...r&f=32&t=17126

No, Medics are disadvantaged. Every time I mostly play Medic I drop in skill pretty significantly. Still, I mostly play Medic (as evidenced by my deaths as Medic under Roles) and am currently ranked 103. I'll be pretty ecstatic if I can ever break top 100.

I stand corrected. I don't know why I didn't know this because I've looked it up before. The problem is that the Elo system was apparently designed for chess where they don't have a lot of medics. It appears to be using statistics to calculate your skill based on who you kill and their skill. It does nothing with the medic data. Pretty fuckin weak. Perhaps we should write our own system :P

Originally Posted by Sammus

The problem is that the Elo system was apparently designed for chess where they don't have a lot of medics.

Hahhah

An ubered Queen would be unstoppable!

-Pulp

^This. Yeah, it doesn't affect how I play. I play to win; I'm not worried about KDR. But the next day at work I check psychostats to see what it says about how I played. I like it. It's kinda cool. But yeah, it's a bit frustrating to have torn it up as Medic, and yet your skill level went way down because your KDR was 0.5. It's not going to stop me from going Medic, but it is a pretty glaring error in the algorithm.