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**Watsyurdeal?** · 02-18-11, 03:28 PM

I'm willing to bet they'll add a cvar option for vanilla mode, and pre polycount unlocks only. I don't know, call it intuition.

**enf** · 02-18-11, 04:29 PM

Cosmetic fluffery... haha I like it...

I see where youre coming from Ooze, but I agree with Veo. Most of the original weapons are still the cream of the crop for weapon selection. I think there are two types of players here. The ones that hate change and the ones that welcome it. Unfortunately the former are a majority of the founding base of TF2 here and have moved on to other games. It happens. The latter on the other hand kind of have a double-edged sword. They play the game and like all the updates and such, but since they have that mentality of not wanting a game to get stale, they play many other games and dont dedicate most/all of their time to TF2.

So I think the fanbase is still there, its just not as prevalent as before.

**Mr.Expendable** · 02-18-11, 06:11 PM

Yeah, its sad seeing the servers empty at 7pm on a friday. Been priming for a good while, didnt work out.
Oh saw samus get on ill go help again

**Veovis** · 02-18-11, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by tr_enf

I think there are two types of players here. The ones that hate change and the ones that welcome it. Unfortunately the former are a majority of the founding base of TF2 here and have moved on to other games.

Wouldn't people resistant to change be LESS likely to play new games? :-P

I am pretty resistant to change which is why I still play TF2 years later. But also because it is an awesome game and I don't have time to learn a new one.

**Cprice** · 02-18-11, 06:36 PM

I probably wouldn't be so disgusted with the new influx of weapons to the point where I quit, if they were actually play tested and weren't horrifically un-fun to play against. And I'm sure the majority of the people that aren't playing anymore would say the same. Hats and misc stuff are obnoxious, but it's the stupid weapons that are broken that made me stop playing. It isn't the fact that they are "op" but they just aren't fun to play with or against, and that makes them broken.

**JimboIncinerator** · 02-18-11, 06:53 PM

I personally love TF2. The problem i have is with all the new weapons i dont know how to counter all of them , and know how to use them efficiently. Just way to much to learn now. It Used to be simpler like rock, paper, scissors kind of a way. I could figure out how to effectively choose a good class to help the team the most to win. Now there is so many options i cant make it work right.

A simple sum up would be, its overwhelming.

**Oozish** · 02-18-11, 07:44 PM

Ultimately, why I said, 'It doesn't matter' is because it's 7:30 we've been priming for an hour and there are only 3 people on the server. Friday night.

Case closed. Anyway, don't worry I'm one of the guys that will still be playing this game a year from now; for me the gameplay is too good and yes, I know the core weapons are the best that's why I run the demo/sticky man the way God wanted it to be.

EDIT: Unless BRINK is awesome juice and we all convert?

**CivilWars** · 02-18-11, 08:07 PM

There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

**Watsyurdeal?** · 02-18-11, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

Does that mean CSS sucks? :P

Jk, CSS scares me though

**Vexon** · 02-19-11, 12:57 AM

I just hate how I don't even know all of the weapons anymore. There are like seven thousand weapons I haven't even heard of in the game. They need to just stop with the weapons and work on new maps or like Meet The Medic, or Meet The Pyro...